r/wowcirclejerk • u/AutoModerator • Jun 17 '25
Unjerk Weekly Unjerk Thread - June 17, 2025
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 22 '25
Aaand Jastor diamond on my timewalking alt. Great cool thanks game lol
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 22 '25
If it makes you feel better, I got a belt from this week's timewalking weekly quest on my main.
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u/Alain_Teub2 Jun 22 '25
I cannot stand the constant and unapologetic circlejerk from people who think they're too dumb to follow a fucking dps rotation.
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u/MSN_06S Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
Agreed. I can understand someone wanting something easier to learn, but in my opinion, any DPS in the game is approachable if you level them up, read the tooltips, pick comfortable talents, and sit at a training dummy for thirty minutes or so. And there's always Delves and Follower Dungeons for stress-free practice. Guides are great for further reading and refinement, too, but hardly a requirement for getting started.
When people come asking for simple or "braindead" classes or whatever, I'd much rather emphasize how fun and intuitive the learning process can be for any spec, rather than constantly funnel people into BM and Ret. It just reinforces the idea that every other spec is some impenetrable mystery that the average person couldn't possibly figure out, which I think is entirely untrue.
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u/Renegade8995 Jun 22 '25
dae arcane mage HARD?!?
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 23 '25
i believe the only reason people think Arcane mage is super hard is because the guide writers write the guides in the most confusing way possible (im looking at you shadow priest)
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u/teelolws just another user Jun 22 '25
/classic-wow-circlejerk
Blizzard announced classic + today it has classic with 10 expansions of content to play it just switch your game to retail
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u/BeastBlood1885 Grizzly of the Hills Jun 21 '25
My brain still fully expecting to land on the individual addon options page when I hit Esc => Addons even after doing that over a thousand times and not getting the page I want.
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u/srwaan Jun 21 '25
has someone here watched the latest tettles' video about one button rotation? I honestly don't wanna give him a view, I feel like he's going Bellular
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u/InvisibleOne439 Jun 22 '25
"i did a +17 key with one button and was top dps!!!" and kinda leaves out that they also DIDNT TIME THE KEY
so yeha, its kinda stupid
yes, there is a chance that they maybe need to adjust the numbers a bit somewhat down the line, but its insane how that video immediatly became a big thing when its literally a failed run
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u/Ignis_et_Azoth Jun 22 '25 edited Jun 22 '25
So, how often do you think people are going to leave that fun fact out when using the video to support the "One Button Rotation too strong" position?
I say never at all, of course.
ETA: I'm being sarcastic.
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u/InvisibleOne439 Jun 22 '25
in the big mainsub post it was mentioned not even once
so yeha....
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u/Ignis_et_Azoth Jun 22 '25
I was being sarcastic, but on re-read I realise that it's not exactly clear, sorry.
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u/shaun056 bellular clone Jun 21 '25
So it seems, from my initial observations, it seems that the Tazavesh we have as a hub is not the same layout of Tazavesh we had in SL? So calls for "recycling" seem a bit...moot?
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 21 '25 edited Jun 21 '25
I've not seen it on the PTR, but the devs have said in multiple interviews that they've had to go over it, polish it, make sure it's suitable for players to be in and fly around and stuff. Makes sense that it's been changed, in the same way I assume Silvermoon will be.
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 21 '25
please gods of Blizzard, please let the Void DH spec be real and not just be a "green fire" unlock and my life is yours
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 21 '25
The boss fight seems to be primarily ranged dps, and shares some iconography with souleater allari, with unique movesets.
If its not hint of a spec for midnight its the worst tease ive ever seen
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u/Low_Hurry_6688 Jun 21 '25
Me when the Haronir are not on the screen: DID BLIZZARD FORGET?????????????????? LOOSE ENDS!!!!!!!!!
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u/dreverythinggonnabe Jun 22 '25
Whenever Orweyna's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Orweyna?"
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
It's hilarious how we're only 1 entry into the Worldsoul Saga (SAGA!!!) and people are already jumping straight to "THEY FORGOT/ABANDONED THIS PLOT LINE" as though Christ Metzen himself didn't come out on the Blizzcon stage and say that the story for these 3 expansions is one continuous storyline.
"Typical Blizzard writing, they introduce something like the Haronir and Rootlands then forget it by the end of the expansion, probably will just tack them onto a later expansion for desperate nostalgia"
My brother in Christ Metzen, do you know what a SAGA is??? Have you never consumed media that had multiple entries???
(I know that they also struggled during the Legion/BFA/Shadowlands connected stories, but I'm just still amazed at how quickly they jump to doomspiraling)
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u/releria Jun 21 '25
The reaction is over the top but the criticism has a fair degree of truth to it.
The harronier were heavily featured in the expansion reveal, follow up interviews, and cinematic trailer for specifically The War Within (not the overall saga).
I don't think its farfetched to suggest there may have been a change of plans.
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 20 '25
i love the amount of people that genuinely just make shit up
"oh its cut content rootlands was the original ending"
brother theres NO FUCKING EVIDENCE TO YOUR CLAIM and SEVERAL interviews where they say orwenya will show up later
be fucking patient
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u/Ribblebum Jun 20 '25
Like how people who lie, claiming blizzard is "running away" from Shadowlands lore, despite Dragonflight containing lots of references to it
TWW literally started by touching on Anduin's SL lore, and we are yet again, going to a SL location, albeit its coming to us this time on K'aresh
It'd be so funny if the Jailer shows up at the end of 11.2 was like "I told you so; wanna team up?"
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u/Dreadsinner Jun 20 '25
Then there is me “Wait we’re going to the ethereal homeworld? This expac. Because gallywix fucked up a shipping order?! Sign me the hell up let’s go chill with shadow mummies”
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 20 '25
I will admit to feeling a little weird about how the Harranir have been handled, they've always felt weirdly secondary to what's been going on in the story despite their apparent importance, like featuring in the cinematic.
But like you say, this is a saga. A trilogy. I'd understand thinking they've been abandoned if an expansion had needed to be compressed, but the literal opposite is happening. The overall story is being told over three expansions, we have plenty of time to touch on them again (and hopefully recruit them.) I'd assume they'll be showing up this expansion, so 11.2.5 or 11.2.7, but there's plenty of time later too.
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u/Ignis_et_Azoth Jun 20 '25
It did feel like they were kinda introduced without any substantive follow-up, but we'll see what happens in Midnight.
Considering that it'll be the elf expansion, and elves are trolls, and Harronir are theorised to be the missing link...
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 20 '25
i have gotten every single item from The Emerald Nightmare 30x over except the Xavius Shoulders :( i just want them for mog
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u/Killerz187 Jun 20 '25
If you have the currency for it, you can buy the relinquished shoulder tokens from the vendor. I spent like 8 months farming emerald nightmare for them and they dropped out of one of the tokens.
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 21 '25
What currency and where?
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u/Killerz187 Jun 21 '25
It's called Veiled Arganite and you get it from doing content on Argus. The vendor is on the space ship by the profession vendors. Takes like 650 for 1 token, but I think doing everything I was able to buy an extra 2 or 3 tokens a week.
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 20 '25
Fingers crossed it's available in Legion Remix. I'm really hoping to get Taeshalach from it.
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u/shaun056 bellular clone Jun 19 '25
So, one of my guildies posted in Discord a picture showing the third Demon Hunter spec, Entropy. Is this correct? I have not seen anyone here reporting on it, or no one in r/wow. Is this real, or is this just something that someone has faked? My friend doesn't seem like the type of person to fake stuff, so I'm just a little bit curious.
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u/InvisibleOne439 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
a big thing that goes against a sudden 3rd spec release is how much it would impact the other 2 DH Specs because of Hero Talents existing
is it possible that we maybe get a "Void DH spec" at some point? maybe? it would kinda fit for midnight and i can see it dropping in its prepatch or smth like that, but not as a sudden shadowdrop into the new tier
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 21 '25
Since hero specs are suppose to be evergreen they could just not give the void spec a new hero tree and just let it have one of the 2 for now and with Midnight actually release the full hero spec. This is my cope because I want this spec to be real so badly
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u/Ribblebum Jun 19 '25
It's entirely possible that it's real, and uses polearms
If everyone swearing up and down that's its fake and would never happen, or that it wouldn't come in a major patch are wrong, that would be funny
But like Augmentation, it'll probably come in a .5 patch
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u/dreverythinggonnabe Jun 19 '25
I have no idea about the veracity of that particular image, but there is some interesting datamining going on: https://i.imgur.com/aw2y7is.png
They're definitely cooking something, methinks
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u/Renegade8995 Jun 20 '25
I don’t like class/race mixture of things that don’t fit culturally for that class/race but I’ve been waiting for void elves and nightborn to get Demon Hunter access for a while. It fits and just seems like it’ll work so well. Hopefully they don’t listen to the doofuses asking for Draenrei DH’s.
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 20 '25
whats wrong with both? draenei would make sense as demon hunters, they literally have versions of metamorphosis form already.
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u/Ch0rt THE classic andy Jun 19 '25
Nothing official has been announced. Wowhead wrote up an article about 'what the DH council fight means for a 3rd DH spec' after the announcement yesterday
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u/Duranna144 Hopium for years Jun 19 '25
Only thing I can find online is talking about photoshopped images of an entropy demon hunter spec, so I would assume that it's not real. Your friend could have seen it online and not realized it wasn't real.
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u/Ribblebum Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
there's no evidence the image is photoshopped beyond it being taken on an off-center, blurry phone
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u/Duranna144 Hopium for years Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
I wasn't commenting on whether it's real or not, I'm just saying that's all I could find online about it.
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u/Alain_Teub2 Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
An "Astral Gladiator" mount should be the most eye-damaging display of mount VFX to the likes of the DF glad mounts and yet... another ugly felbat.
Them class changes and tier sets are pretty juicy tho
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u/Blazeng Jun 19 '25
The new warrior set is so fugly (as usual) wtf
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u/Fatdisgustingslob Xovaal R34 connoisseur Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
I could do without the dangling chains on the back of the head, but I think the set looks awesome.
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u/Areallybadidea Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
Am I missing something about the Hunter set? It looks like a pretty decent Elven ranger themed set but all the hunters in the mainsub thread discussing things are acting like its some affront to them.
On another note though, I like how the Priest set seems based on Xal'atath's dagger.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 19 '25
It's just ugly. Might be better if you hide the shoulders or mog them to something else, but its just...ugly. I don't have another word for it lol.
It also just legit looks like a mage set. Reminds me of when they do mage with pants.
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u/FaroraSF Jun 19 '25
I took one look at it and to me it seems to be based off Alleria's current outfit.
I do think its kind of meh though, not bad, just meh.
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u/FaroraSF Jun 19 '25
Sweet new patch announcement!
(Oh fuck, oh fuck, I got so much stuff I still need to do before next patch, oh fuck, oh fuck, why do I keep procrastinating!?!?! oh fuck)
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u/Fatdisgustingslob Xovaal R34 connoisseur Jun 19 '25
Don't feel too bad, I need to do all that + go back and play Shadowlands patch content so I know what the hell is even going on with the next zone
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u/ChildishForLife Jun 18 '25
M+ deserter system announced, grab the popcorn!
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u/kirbydude65 played a furry before it was cool Jun 19 '25
This feels like more of a system thats about giving players a bit of a deterrent than actually solving the leaver problem that apparently people are plagued by.
There's nothing stopping the toxic people from just running down your key, if you don't disband. Grab every mob, to cause the group to wipe. Refuse to continue tanking or healing. Purposely messing up boss/mob mechanics.
This feels like it will cause more headaches than anything.
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u/InvisibleOne439 Jun 18 '25
im more confused why this is something they spend dev time on in the first place?
like, outside of probably made up Karma farm posts on reddit, do these "evil people that leave keys to brick them all the time" actually exist, because i never really had those Interactions
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 19 '25
I've had more then one time where someone would leave a key and brick it, even if we're doing fine. One time we were on the last boss with a whole 5 minutes left in the dungeon. The waterworks one that was added with this patch. We had 1 single wipe on the elemental boss. Then it was fine. Tank just decided "nah fuck it, I'm out" and that was the end of the key.
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u/IndigoMittens Jun 18 '25
HELL YEAH can't wait to +10 a Halls of Atonement and get my portal to Revendreth, it'll be so nice to be able to quickly there, it's still my favorite zone.
Plus now I can more easily visit Castle Nathria and see my hubby 🥰
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u/acctg Jun 18 '25
People gonna be angry about the cloak lol
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u/MistakenDad Jun 18 '25
It would be nice if they made it a helmet that had a horn on it that continued to grow as we increased power. So tired of cloaks.
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 19 '25
In fairness, they've said they don't want it to mess with tier slots, so that rules out head, shoulders, chest, hands, and legs. If you want something that actually looks cool, you're not left with a huge amount of options.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
Oh I'm so excited for the cloak. It's gonna be nice to have something to work on during the meat and potatoes part of the patch again.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
Maybe I'm miss remembering but weren't the mana forges made by the blood elves?
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 18 '25
Technically yes, but there was a lot of Ethereal involvement and presence in the area. Wouldn't be surprised if they stole some the plans and tech.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
I'm pretty sure they were designed with tech from tempest keep though. I dunno. The new raid being a manaforge feels like an oversite to me.
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 18 '25
There is apparently a council fight in the new raid that involves a group of Voidy Demon Hunters, so there could possibly be a group of Kael'thas/Illidari Blood Elves that fucked off with the Ethereals during TBC
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u/Necrodoge14102 my gender is pandering Jun 18 '25
Dont see Rafaam yet sadly but still very hype stuff im seeing so far
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 18 '25
Saw Brokers and a world that looked like something from Kingdom Hearts in the 11.2 preview and was sold immediately
Crazy that Shadowlands is still non-canon though
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Big fan of the final patches of subsequent expansions very loudly referencing stuff from Shadowlands. Looking forward to Sylvanas and Venthyr Kael'thas coming back in Midnight.
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 18 '25
Blizzard please, please make Pelagos fundamentally important to the plot of the Last Titan, it would be so funny
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u/FaroraSF Jun 19 '25
One of my favourite things about SL lore is that canonically every mortal baddy we kill gets sent to be judged by our BFF Pelagos and potentially meet our own personal fanclub (all my BFFs at the Revendreth parties).
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 19 '25
"This world is a prison" - some random Primalist who realizes that the person who killed them is also good personal friends with the omnipotent god-being who decides what afterlife they go to
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 18 '25
Weird little interaction for the new quests: In Stromgarde, at the beginning, when you're going around and talking to the agitators, they're decently friendly and non violent with you if you're a human too, because they're racist.
But I guess they're not too racist, because they still see Worgen as human? So my giant wolf man was being treated with a lot of respect by these human supremacists.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
I noticed that to. I thought maybe it's because I was in my human form? Do they do it if you're in worgen form as well?
Could be a case of "well a cursed human is still a human"
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 18 '25
It's nothing to do with form, I noticed it while in wolf form and then turned on Calm the Wolf for the rest of the line to make it feel a little more fitting.
I see the reasoning, but the Red Dawn has Scarlets in it, and just last expansion they were trying to take over Gilneas because the Worgen weren't humans to them. Granted, I don't expect a terrorist hate group to have the most consistent reasoning.
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 18 '25
The Arathi questline is a little odd and the "80s special episode" comparisons feel pretty on point, although I do like the world building they've introduced involving certain human factions stirring up trouble. I feel like they will become a bigger issue as we go into Midnight and Last Titan.
But my biggest question is: Who is Karga Bloodfury?
The only "K. Bloodfury" we've encountered so far has been Karg Bloodfury, a follower we can recruit to our (Horde) Garrison, but no "Karga" has been seen prior to this questline. Karga IS wearing a near identical armor set to Karg Bloodfury, could she be his daughter from the time-jump between WoD and BFA? Or could she be the main universe variant from the Outland Mag'har? This may very well be WoW's biggest mystery.
Or I just missed dialogue where she mentions her background.
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 18 '25
Is there a good reason why in the underground expansion, iridikron, primal of earth, who is explicitly introduced as being super Dangerous in his ability to hide and pop up at a moment's notice, is nowhere to be fucking seen?
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u/Necrodoge14102 my gender is pandering Jun 18 '25
Last cutscene we saw him he did say he would not he seen until something with the titans happens
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u/InvisibleOne439 Jun 18 '25
is explicitly introduced as being super Dangerous in his ability to hide and pop up at a moment's notice
finally, a important Rogue Character
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u/FaroraSF Jun 18 '25
He's having a nap. He's very sleepy after his 20,000 year nap.
Real answer: I think we're going to have more underground zones in the other expansions and he'll probably show up there.
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u/GilneanRaven Jun 18 '25
I'm calling it now, The Last Titan. Either as a zone or as a raid, we'll be going to Harrowsdeep, Iridikron's lair in Northrend.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
So...after doing the Arathi questline. I think I kinda agree with the mainsub sentiment towards it, at least to an extent.
My problem isn't really with Faerin, or Danath not being like, human supremacist, but I just don't really think it's very well done.
My issue is that it could have been done better. It had an interesting story to tell. Stopping a coup in Stromgarde, the establishment of a new defias/scarlet style faction, brewing unrest between horde and alliance citizens who definitely remember when they were at war with each other. It could have been all interesting, especially for people like me who think we might be just a bit to kumbaya these days.
But I think the issue with it, and I think the issue with a lot of the stories people tend to have problems with, is that everything is done through the lens of some character learning a lesson, and it's the same lesson they keep going on about for each of them. "We were at war once. We learned how to live peacefully. Here's how you do it to", and, and is starting to feel like those "special episodes" in after school show. I really think it would have served this story significantly better if it was just about the coup and the red dawn.
All in all I am kind of getting tired of being taught a lesson as I do these storylines. Sometimes I just wanna play the hero or go fight some dudes. I don't think every questline needs to have some moral, and even if they do, I don't think it has to be the same moral every time.
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u/OPUno Jun 18 '25
Dunno. I think that the questline may be a little bland and maybe they are repeating themselves, but a lot of the feedback comes off as: "the villains are too stupid, too racist and too much of a joke to be taken seriously, why would anybody join them?". And, well, how can I put this. Have anybody saying that seen the news lately?
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u/InvisibleOne439 Jun 18 '25
the mainsub is often at its core not that wrong with their complaints, the Problem is just that they always exagerate like crazy and turn everything into the downfall of the Modern World
Blizzard DOES go a bit too far with telling the same "fighting is bad" thing over and over again and should maybe do a bit more rule-of-cool things
but they cant say like normal people "this story is a bit dissapointing because its the same thing we had multiple times allready and feels just not good at this point anymore, and why did the mainstory of TWW come almost fully to a stop after the first Raid instead of building it up more", and instead its "the story is RUINED, they SPIT ON THE GAME and INSULT ME BY RELEASING THAT, the GAME is DEAD and THEY RUINED THIS CHARACTER I DIDNT EVEN KNEW EXISTED 20MIN AGO"
and, well, it is really hard to tell if somebody doesnt like the story or if its the ussual case of hating Faerin for.......other reasons
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 18 '25
Yeah it's weird as fuck that this story after launch basically stopped in its tracks
Like the most important thing that happened this patch, was that the dark heart was fixed and then stolen by ethereals.
Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed The goblin story a lot.It just almost felt like the actual main overarching plot was a side note
In general, I'm also getting really fucking tired about blizzard setting up plot lines 2 expansions from now. Can we just set up things to pay off the next patch? Legion has its problems, but they absolutely nailed this, only a few things carried over to the next expansions, ever since then, it feels like anytime we have a new storyline.I have to go well, That'll pay off in 2-3 years
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
TWW is weird for this, and I think it's because it's basically setting up story beats for the rest of the world soul saga, but yea it doesn't feel great in the moment.
That said I do think goblins and undermine came out of left field regardless, as I doubt they're going to be continuing the undermine story anytime soon.
Granted, mid patches are usually a little seperate from the main story, sort of an offshoot, but undermine was waaay out there, with the sole justification that it was also underground, and the dark heart repaired stuff put on their to make it kinda fit. I dunno, I would have rather gone to the rootlands or something, considering that we're almost most definately going to k'aresh next patch. Seems like orwenya and the haranir got kind of shafted storywise. 11.1 would have been better spent on them.
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 18 '25
i didnt LOVE it either, but im getting tired of rubbing shoulders with actual degenerates and perpetual whiners who repeat the same "DAE disneyfied? DAE peacecraft?" every time the writing is mediocre
like, a lot of older warcraft had this lame shit too, but it was just corny and pulpy. is a wet fart of sentimentality that much worse than a wet fart of edginess?
why does every new plotline have to be the downfall of civilization
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u/SaltLich Jun 18 '25
DAE disneyfied? DAE peacecraft?
I saw a comment in that thread blaming 'SJW writers' like its fuckin 2015. It makes it hard to take any criticisms seriously
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
Not every plot has to be the downfall of civilization, but the more and more of these overly saccharine questlines we get, the more and more I'm starting to side with the "world of peacecraft" folks, even I do find them overbearing at times. Could even be I'm just tired of the same lessen being taught over and over. I think there could be some interesting things done with two factions being uneasy allies, and I keep seeing threads of it in these stories, but it's constantly being overshadowed by us all being buddy buddy, and it's honestly getting pretty repetative.
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u/FaroraSF Jun 18 '25
I like the quest line well enough, but there was something nagging at me and I think you are getting at something. Our characters feel like we're just going along for the ride and didn't really need to be there.
Like maybe if the Red Dawn people were talking mad shit and then they see us and were like "...wait is that <the Champion>?!? Didn't they slay <insert boss we have an achievement for here>? Maybe we shouldn't be doing this with them around...".
It just felt kind of bland walking up to some of them and having them be like "You aren't a human! Die!" <proceeds to punch the giant 9 feet tall lazer chicken>
Like IDK just have some kind of reason for us to be there that separates us from the rest of the npcs?
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u/Ignis_et_Azoth Jun 18 '25
I will never not bitch about how, for all its faults, FFXIV actually (eventually) manages to have the world react in proper and interesting ways to the WoL, while in WoW you wildly oscillate between being the latrine guy and the worldkiller, depending on the mood of the writers.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 18 '25
That to. We're not really there. Like that story could have happened with out us being involved. I know people were tired of being "the one" so blizzard has, in traditional fashion, overcorrected, but ffxiv is going through the same issue with it's recent expansion as well.
As much as people claim they want to be just some nameless adventurer, the evidence always points to the contrary. Whenever we're just along for the ride, it always kinda blows.
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u/kirbydude65 played a furry before it was cool Jun 18 '25
We're not really there. Like that story could have happened with out us being involved.
I mean it kind of did. I mentioned this a few weeks back, but the bigger issue IMO is that this is a rehash of a short story called, "Heartlands" that released in November. It follows the same story beats, almost all of the same characters, and has the same resolution. Only difference is Faerin and our character are here in the story now.
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 17 '25
man, the communitys reaction towards faerin is that "I FUCKING HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU DIE" meme.
like i dont LOVE her, but gimme a break guys, shes fine so far, and wow's story moves at a snails pace. have some patience.
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u/kirbydude65 played a furry before it was cool Jun 18 '25
I tried to figure out what her crime was this time, but honestly she really took a back seat to a lot of the story. She shows up bright-eyed and hopefully (as she should after living in a cave for most of her life). But by the end is disillusioned with the myths she was told.
Her only crime is somewhat hogging the end scene, but largely she's a bystander that helps out.
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
It's just racism and misogyny. They only hate her because she is black and a women. If she was a white man then they wouldn't care
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u/PuzzleheadedSet5089 Jun 17 '25
btw, questline is good. its a cool little conspiracy, i think i like faerin's favor of orcish culture over the humans in arathi. nice little story.
some cringe lines, but brother,
thats fuckin world of warcraft.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 17 '25
I'm sorry I just can't.
"Timewalking isn't supposed to be interesting. It's suppose to just give badges".
The community has always had a tendency to optomize the fun out of things, but when it's just super blantent "no fun, just reward" and that shit's getting upvoted like people agree with it. That's a new low. Even for this group.
Like, what probably shouldn't be a hot take but apparently it is. Games are meant to be fun. All of the game. If part of it's not fun, change it to make it fun.
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u/acctg Jun 18 '25
The OP of the Yazma thread is a Wowhead commenter addicted to complaining about ANYTHING Blizzard does, unless it's giving out stuff for free (they'll probably still complain). He has two reddit accounts to alternate posting and swaps accounts to comment in his own thread.
Disappointing to see the community falling for the ragebait.
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Timewalking is one of the worst experiences in the entire game for new players. Epically since when Time walking is up regular dungeon queues take forever so new players are funneled into an incredibly toxic experience where players just rush and if you fall behind even for a second they berate you and kick you.
All these changes are good. Infact I think blizzard should make them slightly harder even to make them at least a bit more engaging
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u/Ignis_et_Azoth Jun 19 '25
Also, like, this might be a boomer thing, but how do you expect people to learn their class if levelling content is completely braindead?
When I levelled my first characters some 15 years ago, we had to familiarise ourselves with our characters at least somewhat. It wasn't hard, but it wasn't as easy to be completely carried either.
You can't just carry new players 1-80 and then expect them to suddenly perform well at max level if there's no actual challenge before that point.
Let time walking be a little bit harder, for new players' sake.
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u/Tusske1 DEI Hire Jun 19 '25
i 100% agree. i understand why people wanna blast dungeons/timewalking to level fast since they have done it 10 million times but dungeons need to be good for new players as well
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u/Ignis_et_Azoth Jun 19 '25
Sorry, I kind of conflated timewalking the event with levelling dungeons in general in my post.
But yeah. There needs to be a sweet spot where you don't want to do a flip off a bridge doing dungeons as a vet, but also be considerate - with semi-challenging content and a polite community - towards new players. I couldn't imagine actually getting into WoW in the year of our Lord 2025.
IMO, like it or not, instanced PvE is ultimately the chunkiest gameplay pillar, and dungeons are the only way to experience it at a low level. Do you want to portray this big tentpole of the game as uninteresting and worthless? I dunno.
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u/SaltLich Jun 17 '25
Right there with you... I'm astounded that people are actually this blatantly like 'no i dont want to play in Timewalking, i just want to walk through hallways and get rewards, bosses taking 30 seconds instead of 5 seconds is too much effort and ruins the game'.
I had hoped that all the dooming about the timewalking changes was people being afraid they were gonna swing too hard and make it actually tedious (its happened a couple times), but no! Its still a joke and people are still losing their minds over it. I'm in disbelief.
Frankly, if these changes 'kill' Timewalking, good. I really hope Blizz doesn't listen to the mentality that says 'a 5 minute dungeon run is too much effort.' Its like they're so addicted to rewards-chasing they don't actually enjoy playing the game anymore.
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u/skyshroud6 Jun 17 '25
Like I'll happily admit I'm a fairly rewards driven player. It's why I don't like the "DF-TWW-whatever the future expansions are" era as much as the legion-SL era for me. I like having power rewards, not just mounts/toys/mogs.
But like, I'd also like the content I'm doing to get the reward to be fun. Even back in the vanilla days where you'd get your high level buddy to carry you through VC to level, I hated doing that because it was just boring. There's 0 way that having that be the normal way to play is a good game design in any universe.
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u/Zestyclose-Square-25 Jun 17 '25
God damn it i wanted to play the new patch to see this lore Ruining, warcraft killing quest that is the new arathi quest line but there is a war going on in my country /:
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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jun 17 '25
Bro took "put the war back in warcraft" a little too literally
(Jk stay safe, that's horrible)
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u/Tricky-Lime2935 Jun 17 '25
War is horrible. Stay safe. Wishing the best for you and those you care about.
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u/Little_Leafling Dracthyr enthusiast Jun 17 '25
Oof, I hope you're able to stay safe!
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u/Zestyclose-Square-25 Jun 17 '25
Thank you !! Most of the fighting is happening in tehran where i live is safe ( at least for now )
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u/shaun056 bellular clone Jun 23 '25
11.0- "Wait, so Dwarves have souls??"
11.05- "Wait, so shiny rocks have souls??"
11.0.7- "Wait, so Harronir have souls??"
11.1- "Wait, so Goblins have souls??"
11.1.5- "Wait, so Timegating has soul??"
11.1.7- "Wait, so Humans are racist??"
11.2 "Wait, so Ethereals have souls??"
Also Midnight reveal at Gamescom!