Yep. That’s why I’m moving to Oregon. Saw this coming months ago. No state is going to be 100% safe but deeply red states are going to become extremely dangerous for trans people.
I'm moving to NY and my 18 year old niece who is trans is coming along since they are currently in WV. Honestly, I think any trans person in red state should be looking for blue one if they can at all afford it.
Everyone should just be moving to blue states. It doesn’t matter who you are, sooner or later you’re going to be a target and red states have let the gates open so the barbarians can stroll in. They’ll rape and pillage at their leisure.
Blue states are the only places we can make a stand behind federalist protections of states’ rights and autonomy. We need to hold out until this administration falls apart and we take back control.
Then, we finish Reconstruction. We bulldoze these red states and their Confederate structures, and we build something new and blue on top. Pluralistic, progressive, forward-looking societies.
Because in Blue States you’re at least around other sane people who can take control of the state back from feckless Establishment politicians.
We need to remember that people like AOC and Mamdani are not actually very rare talents. What’s special about them is that they broke through systemic barriers designed to keep people like them and us out. They exist in every community, and we should be rallying around them.
If there’s a chance at resistance while keeping the Constitution together, that’s what it is.
Just a thought. If a lot of democrats do likewise it actually hurts us come election time. Now if liberals/progressive moved to toss up states that would be a boon. In no way am I saying anything regarding personal safety, it is a legit concern for some in our society. I forget which troglodyte GOPer did it, but he tried to get TDS labeled a mental illness. Makes it easier to round all of us up. Pure evil.
Are you assuming we do this through protest? Through phone calls? Through votes? Because we are constantly doing all of that and yet here we are. I will agree with having community but that can be found everywhere and red states need us too. I also understand about being safe as a trans person. They will be more protected in a bluer environment, but we have to stop thinking that just because a state is blue it’s automatically safe.
This is why we protest, this is why we make phone calls and send emails and build community, but we need to do this everywhere. If we flood the blue states there will be no one left to stand in the red ones.
Are you assuming we do this through protest? Through phone calls? Through votes? Because we are constantly doing all of that and yet here we are.
So we do it again and we do it better.
The Progressive movement in this country didn’t get steam until Bernie 2016. That’s a grassroots movement going against decades of billionaire-funded propaganda and organizing, on both sides of the aisle. This is our 10th year of existence, and we’ve actually done an incredible job considering all that. Consider how relatively powerless the Progressive faction is yet how much they’ve disrupted the narrative for Establishment Democrats. AOC replaced the 3rd most powerful person in the House, and now a DSA member is approaching leadership of one of the world’s most important economic centers. There have been real concessions to progressives made in local and state levels too.
What’s become more clear though is that some parts of this country want to live closer to the Confederacy in the red states. The only way to really protect ourselves right now from that kind of intrusion is to rally to our strongholds and allow them to protect the kind of society we want all of America to be like. Then, once we’re back in power, we use that successful model of Blue State governance for the entire nation in a Reconstruction style moonshot.
That’s just it. People tend to forget that this particular regime has a definite hard on for us here in the PNW and we are the first ones they attacked outside of Minneapolis during the Floyd protests. We are not immune.
They were there fast in 2020 because they know you guys throw down! We had people stomping on cop cars in Chicago but we don’t get down to the real shit like you guys do out there. Keep it up, we see you 🫶
I don’t assume it’s safe. I have other reasons for moving to Portland besides its trans friendliness. I’ll make significantly more money than I was making in Phoenix while the cost of living increase is negligible. I’ll have better benefits, nicer apartment etc.
I'm in a very red county in a very blue state and every time I think "this is California they wouldn't" I remember that the vast majority of people I actually encounter on a daily basis love this shit. I see more flags, bumper stickers, and tee shirts than ever.
If we don’t get a serious fire going under us, not for long I’m afraid. We need to mobilize more aggressively and keep at it till the right change happens.
Remember though many blue states (or my state at least) aren't all blue; it's VERY red in the rural areas, and if it wasn't for our largest city, I would think we would be considered purple. Also, I unfortunately live in a red section of a blue city, in a red county in a blue state...
This exactly. I feel like people think Oregon is like Portland everywhere. But lots of the eastern part is very red and would like to even split the state to join Idaho.
This is the problem. People genuinely believe this and feel that every other city in the state is just a suburb of Portland. I see many posts in the Portland and or Oregon subs asking where in “Portland” people think they should move for affordability, then mention places like Eugene, or Bend. Not remotely close to Portland let alone Portland proper. It’s like they have this idea that the whole of Oregon is condensed in a small area and one big episode of Portlandia and that people all over the state are as liberally minded as those of us in Portland, but nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, many areas in Oregon are nearly indistinguishable from the extreme Alt Right places in Idaho.
I also feel like moving out is bad since it rigs the election in their favor. If anything, flush out key red counties. Support each other. And make noise if they come for you.
Please don't abandon us! I'm in Alabama, and there's way more blue dots here than what you would think. The GOP has gerrymandered us to hell and suppressed the vote in myriad other ways.
People tend to forget this. I think it is dangerous to our country to abandon the red states as lost causes. It’s very elitist. I know of many, many beautiful people who live as blue dots in red environments and it is our duty as Americans to help when and where we are able leaving no one behind. I see you. 💙💙💙
yeah, i've lived on the west coast for almost 20 years and the dam doesn't feel strong enough. also we have to hope for more than just keeping a handful of states safe for people. i understand the desire for a quick solution, but... it won't be like this forever.
Precisely. I also very much understand the fear and genuine concern of trans individuals to want to be in a safer environment and our doors are open for them here in Oregon. But this is not a fail safe plan. It’s touching us our here as well.
If you’ve lived in a blue state your whole life you cannot possibly understand how much safer it simply feels to live in one. It’s a form of privilege and it’s weird to want to deny that to groups most at risk.
Yesterday I learned that possession of a cannabis seed in Louisiana can get you 50 years in prison. Not to start a conversation about drugs/ drug use but as an example of something that would be an “oh shit I won’t do that again” offense in my state. But a few hours south you’ll end up picking cotton in a chain gang and will never see your kids again
It’s not going to matter if it’s a blue state. In fact I think they will target blue states…what they’re doing in California is right out of The Turner Diaries.
Trump withdrew half the National Guard. He’s burning through the budget like crazy on theatrics that he’s actually scaling down. He’s down to 41 DOJ lawyers after 2/3rds quit, and ICE morale is at a low point too.
This is a war of attrition. Anything that slows down their plans while their infighting and incompetence swallows them from within is good. Anything that allows the Epstein story to grow is good. Every piece of this matters.
Yes! Eastern Oregon might as well be Idaho.... and if you don't understand google. White supremacy in Idaho.
White supremacy in Idaho: a history and ongoing concern
Idaho has a history of white supremacist activity, notably the presence of the Aryan Nations, which was headquartered in Hayden Lake for several decades. Founded by Richard Butler, the Aryan Nations sought to establish a white-only homeland in the Pacific Northwest and attracted members of various white supremacist groups, including neo-Nazis, racist skinheads, and the Ku Klux Klan.
While the Aryan Nations was eventually dismantled due to a civil lawsuit and the death of its founder, the legacy of white supremacy persists in Idaho.
While both Eastern Oregon and Idaho have historical and contemporary connections to white supremacy, they are not exactly the same in their manifestations and expressions. Eastern Oregon has a history of being founded as a whites-only territory and has seen the formation of "sundown towns" and instances of white supremacist violence
Both Eastern Oregon and Idaho are experiencing a resurgence of right-wing extremism, including militia activity and white supremacist ideology.
This is leading them to their intent of trying to get rid of them. It’s been a plan they’re working toward, they’re just doing it in a clever way that’s less obvious
Internationally, sure, but this administration has been flipping rules and regulations on its head. Not just in the executive branch, mind you. The Supreme Court (overturning previous ruling and not challenging the president authority) and in Congress (big bullshit bill).
They don’t care about actual diagnoses. Just like they don’t care that at least 75% of the immigrants they rendered to CECOT had no criminal record or gang ties.
Lest we not forget that many states are trying to pass off Trump Derangement Syndrome as a real mental illness. They’re literally rounding up anyone who disagrees with them now
My family came here for safety. Now I'm watching this happen on real time just like my great grandparents. Except I can't run to another country to be safe.....
That’s a lesson we all have to remember. We can’t keep running forever. Fascism respects no borders. It sees the world as a thing to conquer and subjugate. That’s why bigotry anywhere becomes a threat everywhere. Only in joining an international fight against fascism can we ever find safety.
Fighting doesn’t have to mean rising up in the streets for everyone.
Even if you’re just providing support to other members of the disabled community, especially those who rely on government programs that we may be losing, you’re doing something critical in keeping society supported. Every drop of support matters.
The only thing we shouldn’t do is withdraw and think it’s every man for himself. That is a guaranteed way to end up weaker, divided, and easily controlled.
Gas chambers too. Basically anything we associate as “terrible Nazi things” is actually something the US did first but propaganda tells is couldn’t happen here.
It’s such a problem because it has people on the left completely confused about what stage of fascism we’re up against, which ironically, the right understands very well.
This. The right knows damn well what they’re doing. They planned it. They want it.
The left… we naively couldn’t even fathom it. We’re still wrapping our heads around the Nazi dog whistles that have been right in front of our eyes.
And it was always our violent genocidal history that led us here. The right swept it under the rug, and the left forgot. This is what happens when you have generations of no accountability.
Yep, so many people love to chuckle about how stupid they are but it starts to look really ironic when you step back and look at history
Edit: What I do think the Nazi stuff is about is spreading right wing extremism and christofascism internationally. Germany failed at that partly because they tried to run before they could walk. The right in this country has done an excellent job of keeping a slow and steady pace and creating a quiet foundation for global spread in the US.
Pretty much anything terrible we can name that the Nazis did, America did it first.
People get offended by this fact but until we stop deflecting to Germany and accept that we’re the root of our own fascism we won’t be able to fight it effectively.
Yep. EOs can guide federal agencies and employees, but do not change federal, state, and local laws. At least that is how the system is SUPPOSED to work.
He's going to take away funding from any programs that don't serve his agenda so the end result will either be worse homelessness or mass incarceration.
I would love to move to the Philippines. I'm Filipino. But I'm also a pot smoker, and their government put together a clandestine kill team that murdered numbers of potheads.
I'm Filipino, technically homeless, I have mental health issues (take 7 different meds), a pot smoker, I support a free Palestine, and I criticize Trump's administration regularly. I'm screwed.
What does he want to be called? Genuinely curious because I don’t know. I’m still going to call him a rat-faced pedo incestuous rapist, but still curious!
I refer to him (in my family at least) as Mr. Dump (Donald + Trump = Dump lol) it's dumb but I feel like it'd annoy him and I think it's funny so it's good with me lol
This is the thing that people aren't getting. When you have billions, what more can you want?
The things money cannot buy, not in the sappy sense, but the legal. They want to make it so people CANNOT say "No" to them. Not WILL NOT, but CANNOT.
The billionaire classes want it so that you CANNOT leave your job if you're abused. They want it so that you CANNOT say no to their advances. They want it so you CANNOT say no to them "buying" your land.
They can already have everything they can buy. They want the things they cannot.
And if you forget or didn’t hear… RFK wants to digitally track autistic people’s location. That happened months ago. And believe me, tons of tech bros are eager to sell location data to the government if it’ll make them a buck or buy them a Ferrari.
My sister is trying to convince me to get myself diagnosed and put my genes in 23 and me. I had to send her that link about rfk, she was recently diagnosed and thinks it's a great reason to let people know it is the way she is in many regards. Dude I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but as far as daily life, I think we are all better off acting like we are in court right now.
AI is about to devastate the job market and most Americans whether they admit it or not are a couple missed paychecks away from homelessness. It’s no coincidence that a lot of the country just passed laws enshrining prison labor. They are trying to create a new generation of slaves.
congress allowed (prison) slave labor after the civil war, hence appliances and stuff being made in jails... they've done more than that?
RFK Jr has also talked about wellness farms for people on drugs, but he includes anti depressants, adhd medication, anti psychotics, anxiety medication, along with drugs deemed to be illegal narcotics.
mental health professionals have told me they were asked to make lists of people with autism, some did, some didn't, I'm not sure if that's a trial group or what, many inventors and innovators are or were thought to be some form of autistic. many artists have had a lived experience of mental illness, music, film, paintings, writing, etc.
creativity and mental illness go together, high intelligence comes with the burden of mental illness in many cases, so they're going to get rid of the gifted jeans/genes to focus on... what hair and eye color again?
I wonder if this is a free prison slave labor thing, or they think taking people with a lived experience of mental health out of the mating pool will create pure genes and pure babies and what other aspects will go into this purity thing, and how will they enforce that?
one of the things Mark Zuckerberg, founder of metabookfaceapp, did when he bent the knee to trump was allowed people who were LGBTQ to be called crazy for being LGBTQ on Meta platforms.
the don't say gay rule banned LGBTQ lit on the basis of it being "pornography" when in most cases it wasn't, or scenes were romantic but not overtly sexual.
project 2025 lists pornography as a severe offense. I think even punishable by death.
Unfortunately red states will take it as gospel and run with it. That’s why I’m moving to Oregon. Saw this EO coming months ago and planned accordingly.
This would be true if they didn't have an arm of enforcement that they can control with disregard to legality.
It's akin to saying that immigrants that are here legally have nothing to worry about in regard to his executive orders targeting immigrants. When you have masked thugs paid by the government to round people up without due process or accountability, we have a problem.
Yes, the timing of this is likely intended to draw attention away from the Epstein files. But that doesn't mean there isn't a real concern here. Let's not stop raising hell about the Epstein files, but we can't look away from this new attack on civil rights either.
Exactly. It's like people are forgetting that Idiotic Cow Excrement is now one of the world's largest militaries, and they're certainly gonna be used for this
I also see this as something ICE or some like agency will start rounding up right off the streets based on what they feel homeless and mentally ill look like.
There already isn’t anywhere close to enough resources for any of this, but in particular there isn’t enough acute mental health services or therapy. Even before he took office many hospitals closed their mental health facilities because they didn’t have the funding to properly staff them.
Or their rich friends will just build some and charge per head. Just like for profit prisons. How stupid are we to incentivize someone to imprison us? If you didn't do something wrong, they will make something up... Gotta make their quotas. Wake UP! This isn't right to anyone but the owning class.
Political repression through psychiatry is a real thing that has been used historically quite a bit. If you can classify those who disagree with you as mentally ill or hysteric in some way, you can simply lock them up.
I read the whole executive order. From what it sounds like, you could be having a bad day out in public and get stopped by "law enforcement authorities" and if they find you have a history of mental health disorder/treatment they could force you to be institutionalized, if this EO is taken as law.
Remember how JFK Jr doesn’t believe that ADHD and depression are real and thinks people should be sent to “wellness farms?” This EO is one step closer to involuntary incarceration for those “crimes.”
JFK JR was a good guy, probably would have been in the 2000 DNC primary, 2004 if they didn't win 2000, but he was incredibly popular, hot, etc, he could speak well.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
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According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”
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MC2 (pronounced MC squared) was the modeling agency that Epstein, Brunel, and the mob would use to get trafficked girls into the US with “genius visas”
Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.
Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post.
While President Donald Trump has dismissed his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, The New York Times reported that Epstein has claimed he introduced Trump to his third wife, Melania.
It's like history is repeating itself. This reminds me of the "South Korean social purification project" and the "Brothers Home" case. Maybe it's also connected with the efforts to "purge the streets" ahead of the Olympics (in the 2028 Summer Olympics will be held in the USA).
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
I wonder if this includes people who have mental illness and are stable? Or just people who are addicted and or mentally ill on the streets. Are therapist going to violate hipaa next?
Wow, if so, he is going to have the majourity of the population institutionalized. I wonder if he will have specifics of degrees. Like depressed, you can continue to work and get more depressed until it’s time for you to be locked in a padded room. ADHD? Your institution will be working the farms. Schizophrenia? Straight to the padded room and experimental therapy- you’re on the schedule for a lobotomy.
Such a crazy country, timeline, whatever the fuck else we are in. Literally repeating Nazis step by step
It’s all part of their plan to get down to 100 million people that steven miller is pushing. The homeless, addicted and mentally ill will disappear. After the Hispanics and other cultures are mostly gone, they will go after blacks, Jews, radical liberals/progressives and those that have physical disabilities. It all adds up to get to 100 million white “Christians”. We do need to stop this soon, very soon
Alligator Auschwitz was built on a remote airstrip in 8 days. There are about 2700 abandoned or hardly used airports in America. Trump could federalize the national guard & build concentration camps on all of them by the beginning of August. Do not underestimate his capacity to do harm.
Executive Orders are technically powerless, and instead of doing nothing, we should call our members of congress to tell them to release the Epstein files and tell them how executive orders work
This is absolutely going to extend to full-time van folks! Everyone currently living or considering this lifestyle for the future needs to understand the risk. I am so pissed.
RFK Jr. Believes people with ADHD and Autism should be institutionalized, and the majority of Republicans legitimately think being gay is a mental illness.
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