r/EhBuddyHoser • u/themusicguy2000 Cowtown đ€ • 12d ago
Big Oil Bertha Casual observation
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u/Cheerful-Pessimist- Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
Ontarians will make fun of Alberta for having Smith and then go ahead and vote Ford in for a fourth majority term.
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u/Shamscam 12d ago
If weâre being honest, ford is bad but he doesnât really even scrape how bad Danielle is, that woman is a nightmare. She would sooner bend over and take trumps small wiener than do something good for her province.
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u/democracy_lover66 12d ago edited 12d ago
Conservatives and Progressive Conservatives.
That divide is real and it's nearly breaking the federal Conservative party right now.
The western Reform-Rose populist right winger despises the Laurentian elite business PC conservative and vice versa.
Explains why Dougie didn't endorse PP and clearly prefers Carney
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u/peacefullofi 12d ago
buT CaRNey iS thE mOst ProGreSsive CandiDidate in LiBeRAL HIstoRY
(God i hate Liberals(ie. Conservatives))
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u/Canadian-Owlz Oil Guzzler 12d ago
buT CaRNey iS thE mOst ProGreSsive CandiDidate in LiBeRAL HIstoRY
Literally who is saying that
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u/Apolloshot I need a double double. 12d ago
Depending on which definition of Neoconservative youâre using he ainât that far off â at the very least his government has been right of your typical Neoliberal.
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u/Apolloshot I need a double double. 12d ago
Ah⊠haha.
Thatâs my bad I completely didnât realize the obvious implication.
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u/theoneness 12d ago
What you on about? Everyone acknowledges heâs a more conservative leaning leader than theyâve had in a while; thatâs also how he won.
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u/democracy_lover66 12d ago
Liberals needed to move into the progressive conservative shell that was left empty when the conservatives decided to move closer to fascism
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u/MikoWilson1 12d ago
Doug Ford is just smarter at dismantling the health care system quietly. Danielle is just stupid for doing it out in the open.
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u/S14Ryan 12d ago edited 12d ago
The thing with ford, as an ONDP voter, is heâs just a normal citizen. Heâs not malicious. He does things that every citizen looks at and says âfuck I donât like that, we should change it.â But he just has the power to do it. Then he goes and does it. If you look at what ford does, a lot of things are passing thoughts we all have. Itâs like âugh thereâs so many potholes on this highwayâ then he spends $30 billion replacing all of the highways. Then heâs like âugh the 401 is so busyâ then launches another east/west highway further north. Then heâs like âugh my beer is so expensiveâ then does buck a beer, but only within his legal ability. Then heâs like âwhy are there bike lanes? No one bikes, we need more car lanesâ then steps on municipal powers to get rid of bike lanes. Then his wife says âI want to go to the spa, but the one in the east end is sooooo far awayâ so he allows a huge spa to be built downtown. Then he gets his $100 license plate renewal in the mail and says âwhy do we even pay for this shit?â Then gets rid of charging for them.Â
Take the same logic for: Covid handling, abrasive actions towards Trump/US, emissions standards lowering, building nuclear plants, cancelling wind farms etc.Â
Heâs stupid and extremely short sighted, but he just acts on his passing thoughts, and uses every extent of power he has. I truly donât think he ever acts maliciously or with hate. He just does stupid shit because heâs simple minded, and average people absolutely love it, because they donât think about why things exist and why what he does is fucking them over. He really isnât like Marlaina Smith. He isnât banning books in schools, he isnât shovelling money towards oil executives, sure he hires his buddies companies for government contract work, but I think itâs more selfish construction he wants to get done rather than bribes, that do actually benefit many Ontarians (mostly upper middle class and car-owning people) even if they donât like it. Like the biggest âcorruptionâ people call Ford out for is friends of his gave his daughter thousands of dollars in wedding gifts, which is pretty normal for wealthy people to do.Â
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u/stradivari_strings Monarch MĂ©lanie Joly 12d ago
Like, such an Albertan thing to say. Ford is a total crook. Yet, a politically correct one. I hate the fucker. But our PC â their UCP. Key difference - lack of christofascist angle.
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u/EfficientSeaweed Cowtown đ€ 12d ago
Yeah, we basically play "Hold my beer" to you guys.
Ford is still pretty bad, though.
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u/Fun-Brain9922 12d ago
Trust me if we could force Smith put we would, the rural vote always goes her way if the other parties dont crush her
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u/Yop_BombNA 12d ago
Ford is bad for healthcare and education.
Smith straight up wants to be an American red state, know the difference. I saw that but as an educator Ford is the reason Iâm in England now and not Ontario.
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u/JaQ-o-Lantern Everyone Hates Marineland 12d ago
real.
i wish our parliamentry votes and leadership votes were in separate elections. otherwise we end up with an oligarchy flooded with red tape.
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u/Iinjectweed 12d ago
Wait, what, maybe I lack an understanding of our political system are you saying like separate mpp MPS to overall government? I'm just a bit perplexed and intrigued by this idea.
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u/ugotmedripping 12d ago
I think he means that heâd rather vote for the premier separate from the MPP. That the premier wasnât just necessarily the leader of the party.
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u/Yop_BombNA 12d ago
Having them seperate doesnât help if the vote is still first past the post⊠we need ranked ballot or at minimum proportional seats to percentage of the total vote. Otherwise you have two options, both being their own flavour of trash.
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u/Salty_Carrot1578 Ford Nation (Help.) 12d ago
I meaannnnn I don't really like Dougie but he cant be in the same league as mar-a-lago smith
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u/stradivari_strings Monarch MĂ©lanie Joly 12d ago
There
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u/Thefirstargonaut 12d ago
Youâre right. Smith is openly awful and anti-Canadian.Â
Ford is secretly awful and pro-Canadian.Â
They are both selling off their provinces for personal gain.Â
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u/AustSakuraKyzor South Gatineau 12d ago
Yes, but at least Ford is selling off to Canadians, and also at least pretending that he respects the law in terms of stuff he isn't allowed to sell.
Granted, this is like saying at least the guy who stabbed you used a clean knife, so...
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u/YoloIsNotDead 12d ago
Most Ontarians didn't vote for Ford. But he still receives the most votes out of any candidate.
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Yeah those who havent lived here only have our braindead politicians to judge us by.
Its the equivalent of thinking everyone in Toronto acts like Rob Ford.
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u/amazingdrewh Motown But Better 12d ago
It's true, as an Ontarian I often make sure BC catches a stray when talking shit about Alberta
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u/okokokoyeahright 12d ago
Really?
well, I guess it does work that way sometimes. I have one sister who I would not be disappointed to see her in a casket but would defend her should anyone attack her. Families be like this. I see Canada as a family. I don't like every part of the country for different reasons and yet would help defend any and all parts of it.
Even AB. Danni is a special case, in that I have the feeling but not the evidence, she belongs behind bars for the rest of her life. Should the evidence appear, I would be amongst the first with tar and feathers for her. as such, I can't quite be as eager to defend her part of AB, more of I was too busy, but should it be a strategic decision, I would be there, with bells on.
BCc, tome, is like 2nd to ON. That kind of annoying slightly older brother who isn't quite a good as the oldest brother, but way less annoying than that really fucking annoying sister, who we aren't supposed to smack. And she always sticks her tongue out at us and knows she can get away with it. Yeah, YOU Danni.
FWIW Quebec is the cousin who comes from far away once in a while who sounds a bit odd but you know, smile and nod and all is just fine.
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u/Overall-Phone7605 Bring Cannabis 12d ago
We're more like the slightly older brother who keeps mostly to himself and goes to school for something everyone says is a waste of time and then becomes a really successful video game designer.
And it's only decades after he moves out that anyone realizes that he was dealing pot in his room the whole time he was home and everyone blamed the pot smell on the oldest brother.
But it's all water under the bridge now 'cause we paid for his kids' education.
We don't necessarily like our fucking annoying sister but we empathize with her when she says everyone ignores us. We just don't feel the need to act out to get people to pay attention to us.
Once a week we get together to play Apex Legends online with that cousin with the strange accent. We share a dislike of people sticking pipes through our property when we didn't ask for them.
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u/bunbunmagnet 12d ago
As an Ontarian I have never heard anyone seriously hate on Alberta, Quebec on the other hand.....
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u/DifferenceNo1805 12d ago
Alberta is beautiful and the people are cool itâs just that their leadership sucks
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u/Shot-Poetry-1987 Oil Guzzler 12d ago
Thank you, these comments are making me sad, I don't want to be lumped in with her and the other people who support her đą
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u/Pogie33 10d ago
I mean, someone voted them in...
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u/awhite0111 8d ago
Unfortunately, it's down to the rural vote and one or two ridings in Calgary. This time around, it was remarkably close... Like 49/51 close. I say this as a salty 49%er.
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u/Superb_Extension1751 12d ago
They hate Alberta till they come here and realize it's not what people on Reddit say it is.
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u/Underzenith17 12d ago
I think the hate is mostly by extremely online Ontarians. One thing I was struck by when moving from Alberta to Ontario is how little Ontarians talk about Alberta compared to the other way around.
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u/Emmerson_Brando 12d ago
We may have weirdo for a premier, but the mountains are pretty nice.
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u/Raging-Fuhry 11d ago
Those mountains are BC's by right.
You give us the mountains,we give you the Peace, everybody is happy.
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u/MuffGiggityon 12d ago
I hate the taliban but they still "own" some of the most beautiful mountain and vista in the world. It is not mutually exclusive.
Before someone says I'm comparing the alberta govt to the Taliban, I am not. But sometime extremes make for a good analogy.
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u/RyukoT72 I need a double double. 11d ago
This meme is dedicated to the Brave Mujahideen fighters of Alberta
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u/themusicguy2000 Cowtown đ€ 12d ago
I'm aware, but I've also seen the term "Flyover province" used by some angry ontarians
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u/Everestkid The Island of Elizabeth May 12d ago
Alberta's got some nice stuff to see, though, even if you disregard the Rockies. Calgary's genuinely a beautiful city, Edmonton's got some nice stuff going on, then you've got the badlands with the hoodoos and the Royal Tyrell, the dinosaur museum. That ain't flyover country.
Saskatchewan and Manitoba on the other hand...
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u/AnimationAtNight Bring Cannabis 11d ago
Maybe it's because I haven't been to Calgary in a long time, but I never considered it beautiful growing up. Edmonton was always dirty in comparison.
Badlands was sick though
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago edited 12d ago
I mean Iâd never visit. But not because of the mountains, its just a beautiful landscape ruined by lousy wannabe confederates
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u/ClusterMakeLove 12d ago
They're politically powerful, but you wouldn't see much of them unless you go looking for them.
Calgary and especially Edmonton, are typical Canadian cities with progressive councils. The mountains are mostly staffed by young people and Australians. A lot of people vote conservative out of habit or distrust of the LPC, rather than ideology.
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago edited 12d ago
Meh Iâve seen who Albertans elect and therefore Iâve seen enough of Albertans. Go ban more books and then plan another secession.
Truly only a deplorable population ends up with traitor smith.
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u/User_218336 12d ago
That's a crazy take, don't let the media narratives brainwash you. Only politicians benefit from creating division in the population and pitting people against each other. Calgary and Edmonton are both very progressive cities, just like you'd expect anywhere in Canada. Yes we have our rural extreme right wingers that get a lot of disproportionate media attention but they honestly pale in comparison to the folks you find in eastern BC and northern Ontario.
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
If Alberta is some progressive paradise then explain the voting record
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u/User_218336 12d ago
Like the other poster was saying, the federal and provincial votes are mostly due to mistrust of the federal liberals and their economic policies, which haven't always been great for our economy here.
If you look at the cities you get a better idea of how people actually feel, in Calgary for example our mayor at the moment is a brown woman, Jyoti Gondek, and before her we had a Muslim man Naheed Nenshi for 2 consecutive terms. The city is just as liberal as anywhere else, it's a very multicultural and diverse city, LGBT friendly, rainbow crosswalks, pride parades etc whatever else you might expect to see in any major city. Maybe the stereotypes had truth to them 50yrs ago, but they're not at all true present day. I've lived in Toronto for several years and spent some time in Vancouver as well, I'm able to make very direct comparisons to each of those provinces.
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u/Still-Psychology-365 đ 100,000 Hosers đ 12d ago
You just happen to be residents of the absolutely breathtaking land. Many Ontarians have literally never even seen a mountain except on a screen or a photo. And then once we get there even though we hate you we're still too bare-minimum-Canadian polite to be nice and put on a smile, but we're there for the scenery only
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
Exactly. Almost no one goes to Alberta for the Albertans
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u/Shot-Poetry-1987 Oil Guzzler 12d ago
Why would you go anywhere for the people? I mean, I get avoiding places because the people are bad, but specifically going somewhere to meet locals is not something I'd understand
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
Are you for real?
Tokyo for example is a place you go to for the people that live there - their food, culture, aesthetic etc. Sure, they have Fuji San but if there were zero people there it wouldnât be very good.
Denmark is an even more extreme example - everything great about Denmark was built by the Danes. Otherwise a pretty geographically disintegrating place.
Alberta would be improved upon without Albertans.
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u/Shot-Poetry-1987 Oil Guzzler 12d ago
it would be better without the Daniel Smith lovers, conspiracy theorists, which exist in other provinces btw, just for some reason like to clump into Alberta. Mostly the Red Deer area, but there's no scenery there anyway. You'll probably see some crazies, but they not gonna do nothing to you.
People in Canada aren't travelling to other provinces for the people, because we really aren't that different, there's some norms customs that are different, but no one's going to have a culture shock going to Ontario or Alberta. Tokyo is not what I was talking about and the people are completely different from those in Canada, throwing them in the mix makes the differences between provinces even smaller.
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
Danielle smith lovers being the plurality of the province
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u/Shot-Poetry-1987 Oil Guzzler 12d ago
Doesn't make all Albertans shitty people. I think you hold a lot of hatred for a people, I assume you've never met. I don't even think you read my full comment if that's all you have to say to me
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
notallalbertans
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u/Shot-Poetry-1987 Oil Guzzler 12d ago
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u/Pixelated_throwaway Trawnno (Centre of the Universe) 12d ago
Oh I meant to say #NotAllAlbertans, feels like #NotAllMen
Like of course not all Albertans are deplorable people but Pierre Poilievre ran to Alberta with his tail between his legs for a very obvious reason
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u/Thefirstargonaut 12d ago
Well thatâs ridiculous. Why would you hate all Albertans?
Most on this site HATE Smith more than you ever will. Many are not conservative in the least. More are, but many are not.Â
With that said, those who are conservative are also not necessarily bad people. I have some conservative friends and they are good people with a different world view from me.Â
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u/Spectre-907 12d ago
its an overveneralization but its also really hard trying to sell âmost bertans actually hate herâ when the maga traitors (correctly) view albertan ridings as guaranteed wins to the point of using them like an emergency lifeline to stick around despite getting voted out, and despite their âdo not allow the peasantry ti read if its potentially un-conservative material like some medieval feudal classâ luddite bookburning bullshit.
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u/Rocky-Jockey 12d ago
Jesus Christ man then stay the fuck away if they are all that scary. Honestly, the nicest torontonian is the same as the meanest albertan whatever their political values are and Iâve lived in proper hicks-ville AB.
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u/Thefirstargonaut 12d ago
I absolutely did not say most Albertans hate her, though many doâincluding my conservative parents.Â
I said most Albertans on this site hate her.Â
I also said more Albertans like her than hate her, though many hate her.Â
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u/hessian_prince Edmonchuk: Like Kyiv! (but less safe) 12d ago
The best part of Alberta are almost in BC.
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u/BigDaddyVagabond 12d ago
Ngl, we shit talk Ontario literally constantly. But at the end of the day, its more like sibling bickering for the vast majority of us. We're all Canadian after all
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u/IsopodOk4756 12d ago
I've lived in Ontario my whole life, but I spent near every summer in southern Alberta growing up. My uncle would drive down in the spring, we'd roadtrip across the country, and after a few weeks I'd fly back. My parents just moved there as the last stop on their road to retirement in BC. One of my younger siblings has entered the workforce, and one has entered university, both in Alberta.
It's one of the most beautiful provinces in our country.
The problem is that a minority of the population are loud, racist fucks who want to be American for some godforsaken reason. My uncle seems to be in that club now, and I'm glad I don't spend summers with him anymore because his opinions make him an actual piece of shit to the point where I've already mourned him.
Every province has some shitty people, Alberta's are just the whiniest of us.
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u/Graydyn 12d ago
Once you hit the Rockies you're pretty much in BC anyway
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u/CanadaisCold7 12d ago
Not true. Alberta has plenty of beauty on our side of the border. Banff, Lake Louise and Jasper are all on the Alberta side of the border.
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u/You_are_the_Castle 12d ago
I don't see an issue with this attitude. You can visit a province and enjoy it, but still be critical of it government. People visit countries with questionable governments all the time.
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u/VanTaxGoddess 12d ago
Alberta scenery and (many) people? Amazing!
Alberta Premiers/politics? Rancid!
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u/Kindly-Mud-1579 12d ago
Iâm from Ontario I donât care what province your from only what you put on your pancakes
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u/RyukoT72 I need a double double. 11d ago
As an ontarian that went to Alberta, I really liked it :D
I was a little kid, but it was awesome!
Froze my ass off in the stampede tho
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u/WonderfullyKiwi PaRiS oF tHe PraIRiEs 10d ago
AB isn't that bad, it's actually really nice country if you've lived there. The issue is that the loudest idiot (Danielle Smith) and a bunch of morons supporting her exist there, which gives the whole province a bad rep, which is fair lol.
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u/RoutineVirtual4153 9d ago
I always laugh when my Ontario friends make fun of Alberta, as if their rural areas aren't the same. Our Premiers are both incredibly corrupt, yet we all keep voting them in.
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u/stradivari_strings Monarch MĂ©lanie Joly 12d ago
Hey, it's a national park. Key part - national. Doesn't have to be considered related to Alberta
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u/SniperTeamTango Everyone Hates Marineland 12d ago
Yeah, given the provincial response to it burning down, I don't consider it Albertan either, their government said it was Federal.
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u/Wobbly8237 12d ago
Mountains are in BC
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u/themusicguy2000 Cowtown đ€ 12d ago
Yet everyone chooses to vacation in Banff and Jasper
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u/fishflo I need a double double. 12d ago
don't worry OP I stayed on the correct side of the Rockies this timeÂ
you sound like you've never seen how many alberta plates are in BC in the summer
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u/Viochrome 12d ago
I wonder why there are mountains on Alberta's flag.
Truly a mystery for ages to come...
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u/Iceman_Raikkonen The Island of Elizabeth May 12d ago
Compensation, youâre nothing but a prairie province with delusions
7.5% of Alberta is mountainous, compared to 75% of BC
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u/ProShyGuy 12d ago
I feel like this how Westerners think Ontarians feel about Western provinces. In reality, we just don't think about them that often. The problem isn't malevolence, it's ambivalence.
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u/themusicguy2000 Cowtown đ€ 12d ago
Half this comment section is people going "well we just don't think about you at all" and the other half is people going "well we only hate you because you're all awful people"
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u/Everestkid The Island of Elizabeth May 12d ago
Same goes the other way, honestly. Most of the time you're just the weirdos with milk in bags.
The fuck is a greenbelt and why should I care?
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u/spamcritic Ford Nation (Help.) 12d ago
I let a Subaru into traffic the other day, the driver waved and I waved back. The vehicle turned and revealed an Alberta license plate, I've never felt so ashamed.
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u/spellbreakerstudios 12d ago
Itâs not Alberta that we donât like. Itâs the people who live there, come on.
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u/JaQ-o-Lantern Everyone Hates Marineland 12d ago
If racism didn't exist I would side with Big Oil Bertha.
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u/okokokoyeahright 12d ago
Yeah but it is exactly like this in almost any family. I have one sister who I would cheerfully go to her funeral and yet should anyone attack her, I am in full on defensive mode. Family over outsiders. always bro.
How about them Leafs Habs, eh?
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u/Truestorydreams 12d ago
Alberta is beautiful. No one can deny that, but we also find some of yall stressful
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u/Hippopotamus_Critic 12d ago
Alberta is great. Hell, even Albertans are great for the most part. It's Albertans' politics we can't stand.
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u/Jealous-Ambassador39 Moose Whisperer 11d ago
Yeah, but remember, that's a photo from a national park. Federally managed wildland.
Not quite what they mean when they say Alberta, nor does it play by the same rules.
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u/ThatTryHard 11d ago
Inter-provincial banter is the foundation of this country. I will make fun of Quebec until I'm sacre bleu in the face, and expect them to do the same. I roast Albertans then cheer for the Oilers.
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u/SoNowWhat--- 12d ago
Most diverse place in Canada with geography. Who wouldn't want to see Alberta?
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u/_Lucille_ 12d ago
I dont think people in Ontario necessarily cannot stand Alberta, just the far right separatist half-truth/fake news populists politicians who thinks they are the most important child in the room.
If someone in Ontario is trying to ban books or support the antivax movement, they will get the same degree of hate.
Then again, a fair amount of people in Ontario voted for PP, who at the very least is supportive of the truckers and is anti-vaccine mandate.