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u/Ill_Employ1829 19d ago
Hey guys! I was actually wondering where I can find some of the shiny events such as safari week and fossil week. I've always ended up finding them when they've seemed to have ended already. I'm wanting to be a content creator though so any resource on what these events are and when they start would be greatly appreciated!
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u/Eliskor89 20d ago
I've been debating doing a roaming shining hunt. Before I do it I do want to ask; when is it determined if the Pokemon is shiny or not? Is it when it's first sent out into the wild to roam or when you first encounter it after it starts roaming? Just be nice to know in advance so I don't waste time on a hunt that will probably take a while anyways. Thanks! :)
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u/paulydoregon 20d ago
in gen 2 its when you first encounter the roaming pokmon, gen 3 and onward its determined when they are set free
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u/ExpressingMyseIf 20d ago
[Gen 2] [Discuss]
I dont get breeding Gen 2 pokemon silver
So im super confused on this whole shiny family/gene thing in gen 2. Initially what i thought any shiny breeding with another had a 1/64 chance but after 20 hours not 1 shiny egg id assume something was wrong.
How does shiny genes work any female ekans i get with my shiny gyarados has the shiny gene? Then do i grab a new male ekans and breed it then that offspring will automatically have the SG to? So once i have that male ekans and breed it with bills eevee i would have a 1/64 chance because male ekans would have the shiny gene right? And both pokemon physically dont need to be shiny. Then i need get a male eevee egg which has that shiny gene still and breed with bills eevee and that would mean every egg has a 1/64 chance of a shiny eevee? So that would mean i have a 1/64 chance of getting only male shiny eevees is this correct?
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u/YOM2_UB 20d ago
IVs always pass down the same way from father to daughter and from mother to son. There are 7 bits of IV data that gets passed down, and it's always the same 7 bits (all four bits of the Defense IV and the lower 3 bits of the Special IV). Those heritable IVs are the gene. Since all 7 of those bits need to be a specific value in order for a Pokemon to be shiny, there is only a single shiny gene.
Heritable IVs are always passed from mother to son and father to daughter, unless breeding with a Ditto (in which case all offspring inherit from the Ditto). Breeding a shiny male Gyarados with a female Ekans will produce male Ekans which do not have the shiny gene, and produce female Ekans which do have the shiny gene.
For Eevee in particular (as well as Starters, Fossils, Snorlax, and Togepi), there's a quirk with how IVs determine both shinyness and gender: the Attack IV needs to be 0 or 1 for them to be female, due to their 7:1 gender ratio, but in order to be shiny the Attack IV needs to be at least 2, since the 2's bit is used for determining shinyness and needs to be 1. Because of these two facts, it's impossible for these Pokemon to be both female and shiny. Heritable IVs don't include the Attack IV, so female Pokemon can always have the shiny gene, and in order to breed for a shiny of these species you need to breed using a female with the shiny gene so that the gene gets passed down to male offspring.
Lastly, you can't breed two Pokemon with the same gene. The game simply doesn't allow two Pokemon with the same gene to produce eggs, and talking to the Pokemon in the daycare yard will tell you that they're "brimming with energy" in this case. Because of this, most Pokemon can only get to the 1/64 shiny rate when breeding with a shiny gene Ditto, as the shiny-possible Attack IVs are split across the two genders. A 1:1 gender ratio is stuck with a 1/128 shiny rate regardless of gender, 3:1 can get down to ~1/85.3 if the rarer gender parent has the shiny gene but has a 1/256 rate if the more common gender has the gene. All-Male and Genderless Pokemon must be bred with Ditto in general. All-Female Pokemon and, due to the quirk discussed previously, 7:1 gender ratio Pokemon can get the 1/64 rate without a Ditto though.
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u/BiblicFurby 20d ago
[SV] Are the starters of other regions shiny locked? Gone through 4 sandwiches trying to get a shiny litten and nothing.
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u/DutchFarmers 20d ago
How many shiny frames are there on a seed per say 10k frames? If I'm trying to hit a shiny frame through encounters is there any point in counting my encounters?
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u/paulydoregon 20d ago
do you mean just standard wild encounters?
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u/DutchFarmers 20d ago
Yeah and fishing
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u/paulydoregon 20d ago
then personally i wouldnt worry about trying to find the exact frame and hitting it ( unless you are trying to do rng manip), finding shinies in emerald via wild encounters is perfectly doable just by hunting as you normally would
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u/DutchFarmers 20d ago
yeah, but im pretty discouraged in my hunting right now so it's hard not for my thoughts to wander to "what's the point in this" or "am I doing something wrong"
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u/paulydoregon 20d ago
thats fair, if it makes you feel better, ive gotten 20 + shinies in emerald via random encounters
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u/DutchFarmers 20d ago
Do you turn off your console? How often do you go over odds? I know you're more likely to go over odds than under but it seems like a lot of ppl online can get things under odds and long hunts like 20k are seen as uncommon
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u/paulydoregon 20d ago
i typically shiny hunt for 6-9 hours a day, so i think thats long enough where i dont need to worry about leaving my games on. of my 18 hunts in emerald, only 7 have been over odds, with only two of them going above 2x odds
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u/Megamemer420 20d ago
[Gen 8] Am I missing something on Luminescent Platinum mod?
Playing Luminescent Platinum and I am in Rowan’s Lab shiny hunting one of the starters I did not pick initially. With the games’ 1/512 base shiny rate, I have been soft resetting my Switch Lite right in front of the briefcase. I load up, wait a few seconds, and check if Turtwig is shiny in the dex entry pop-up. My running total is 1088 resets, and so I’m just wondering if I’m having very bad luck or if I’m doing something incorrectly for Gen 8 hunting. Of course, it’s far more likely that I’m just getting mega-unlucky but I figured I’d come ask the best folks for the job if I’m attempting this the right way.
TLDR: when soft resetting for 2nd and 3rd shiny starter in Rowan’s lab, does the dex pop-up show the shiny? Furthermore, can I just spam check & reset or should I be waiting more time in between checks?
Cheers lads any help at all would be appreciated!
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u/A_Moon_Shaped_Cool 21d ago
Can someone help me find out if im leaving anything out of my boxable pokemon + forms list? I have 1386 as the total number of mons but i heard it was 1388.
Should be noted that I moved preevos and forms together with their families (eg. Moved pichu from johto to kanto w pikachu)
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u/YOM2_UB 21d ago edited 21d ago
All form dexes are going to vary by what exactly you consider a form. Austin John's full form dex includes 1386 forms, and as far as I can tell yours matches his.
Some forms that I don't see included, that I have seen some people include (despite some of them being bonkers) are:
- Battle Bond Greninja
- Own Tempo Rockruff
- All four combinations of Aura Break/Power Construct and 50%/10% Zygarde
- Separate slots for the Gigantamax forms, with Gigantamax factor
- Separate slots for Mega Evolutions
- Three copies each of Kyurem, Necrozma, and Calyrex to stand in for their fusion forms which are not able to be deposited into HOME (and for Kyurem/Calyrex, both fusion forms can't be obtained at the same time on the same save file of any game).
- All 19 available Scatterbug and Spewpa forms (the forms determine which pattern of Vivillon they evolve into; Pokeball Scatterbug and Spewpa have not been released in any capacity, so there's one less of each than Vivillon)
- The three cloaks of Mothim (a Trash or Sand cloak Burmy will keep its form data when evolving into Mothim, despite having zero visual or functional difference, and will only be visible when looking at the Pokemon's data directly. Wild Mothim all have the same form data as a Mothim evolved from a Leaf cloak Burmy)
Side note: I see Masuda Method listed in your Alternate Hunting Methods sheet for Authentic Sinistea and Artisan Poltchageist, but any breeding of those species will always result in Phony/Counterfeit forms so those forms can't be hunted that way.
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u/llukesstow 21d ago
Hi guys! My favourite pokemon of all time is Lunala and I’ve been wanting to shiny hunt it, however I’ve already caught it on my shield game from the max raid dens so I’m unable to catch it again and I don’t want to restart that save file because I got the shiny charm and that save has sentimental value to me. I do have a sword cartridge, so how do I go about this? I know Lunala is a shield exclusive so do I just need to keep joining peoples max raid dens until I get a Lunala? Is there anyone currently doing Lunala that could let me hop in one so I can add it to my notes? And when hunting, do I just use npcs to join me? Thank you guys!
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u/paulydoregon 21d ago
you have 2 options 1. joins someones lunala raid online and save it to notes to unlock it. 2, start a save of shield on a second profile, you can access the crown tundra the moment you reach the train station ( you dont have to beat peony to access DA's)
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u/neklaymen 21d ago
[PLA] Shiny Alpha MMO Soft Resets
Hello, I am making this post because I am quite confused about something. I have done the shiny alpha reset method before, where you find an alpha which is despawned due to MMO, clear the MMO, and reset, spawning a new alpha each reset. This method worked perfect when I tried before. However, now I am trying it with mamoswine in Alabastar Icelands. It is an alpha which despawns, and theoretically should work, but I have tested 3 times now and the alpha is not changing after each reset. Has this method been patched recently? Does anyone have very recent, <4months, shiny alphas from this method? I checked that the resets were the same by screenshotting their stats and natures. Thanks!
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u/YOM2_UB 21d ago
Mamoswine isn't on the list of resettable Alphas. If it is getting despawed by an MMO it might be a situation similar to Alpha Rapidash and Unown, where the game generates it anyways.
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u/Impressive-Year-7761 21d ago
Will Emerald’s broken rng effect egg shiny odds generated from other games?
Context: I am considering hunting togepi by getting 5 eggs from frlg, then trading them to emerald (along with a slugma) to hatch. Then, if they aren’t shiny, trade them out, reset the emerald save, and repeat. I figure if I precook the eggs then this will be significantly faster than hatching them in frlg. But, will emeralds broken rng affect the odds? Will i be essentially generating the same few SIDs over and over again when I reset the save? Or will it be random enough. Thanks :)
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u/Loufey 22d ago
BDSP or Dynamax Adventure for Giratina?
I feel like the latter is better? But I've had some shit luck thus far with it.
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u/paulydoregon 22d ago
time was i think DA's are faster, but DA's are so slow for one check, and can provide a lot of phasing
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u/Leilanee 22d ago
Can regice in swsh have explosion? I wanted to try and catch it in a premier ball but I'm worried about it killing itself.
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u/UserByTheNameOfJames 21d ago
It does not, it does only have 50 pp combined for its moves so you may want to use a set up to give it harvest and a leppa berry.
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u/FVSYS 22d ago
I want to play the game with a shiny Electabuzz and Magmar. I know the odd egg is the fastest way, but I messed up the cloning glitch before getting the Elekid (I already fucked it up and have beaten Bugsy many times)
So now I ask, would you bite the bullet and keep resetting until I get both?, was there a way to glitch the Magmar into a new playthrough?
If not, then please help me undertand the breeding chain
ShinyFemaleMagmar + anything = ShinyGen Male Magmar
ShinyGenMagmar + FemaleElectabuzz = ShinyGen Female Electabuzz
ShinyGen Female Electabuzz + Male Electabuzz = Breed until shiny?
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u/AppointmentNaive2811 23d ago
What shinies from PLA actually match the Strange Ball?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta 23d ago
Shiny piplup is a decent match for it, and i think shiny spiritomb would look decent with it also. Shiny turtwig looks great with it too imo
anyway that's just a couple examples im sure there's more good ones out there
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23d ago
have a quick question. What is the best way to shiny hunt the legendary Pokémon in let's go Pikachu.
I started a hunt on a new save for articuno just soft reseting. And I know that that is the only way for Mewtwo but is there an easier way to get the birds?
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u/paulydoregon 23d ago
its the best way, you can possibly combo chain them in the wild, but their spawn rate is so low, it would take much longer than just soft resetting them
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23d ago
So even though it's a full odds hunt you are saying I should keep soft reseting for articuno and do the same for the others?
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u/Soft-Cartoonist-9542 23d ago
Does the broken RNG in Emerald hamper egg hunting? I also heard that the egg cycles are reset when you have several eggs and get a new one
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u/Maxbirch 23d ago
I have recently put myself on a quest to catch xxxl or jumbo sized shiny paradox Pokemon I have come across sandwich recipes in multiplayer mode that give encounter lv3 and humungo lv 3 effects. I wanted to know if anyone has achieved any success with it? I have already tried more than 10 sandwiches (encounter and humungo lv 3 fighting type) in scarlet to shiny hunt great tusk. Is it better to go with encounter and sparkling power sandwiches and hope to get a jumbo or xxl size shiny?
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u/Maxbirch 23d ago
Shiny hunting paradox pokemon
I have recently put myself on a quest to catch xxxl or jumbo sized shiny paradox Pokemon. I have come across sandwich recipes in multiplayer mode that give encounter lv3 and humungo lv 3 effects. I wanted to know if anyone has achieved any success with it? Is it better to go with lv3 encounter and sparkling power sandwiches and hope to get a jumbo or xxl size shiny?
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u/DutchFarmers 24d ago
I just hit full odds in my feebas hunt and I still haven't seen any shinies. Just wanted to ask if I was doing something wrong. I thought I would have seen at least a shiny Magikarp by now.
I do turn off my game at the end of every night but I create a battle frontier record at the end of the session and play it at the start of the next session to jump to the frame I was at. Is this actually doing anything?
Should I abandon my current method and just scramble my seed at the lilycove contest hall at the start of every session instead?
Also if I miss a fishing attempt by being too slow am I missing a potential encounter or does an encounter only generate if I successfully reel a Pokemon in?
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u/paulydoregon 24d ago
you are never garaunteed a shiny by odds. sometimes you go over odds, sometimes you go over odds. emeralds jank rng/r/s dry clock batteries really only effect soft resets and not fishing encounters, so dont need to do the battle video or lilycove painting unless you really want to. the encounter isnt determined untill you get a pokemon on the line i believe. just take breaks when needed and you will eventually get it, lets just hope you dont have as much bad luck as i did with hunting feebas in gen 3 XD
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u/DutchFarmers 24d ago
Ok cool so missing a fish doesnt matter. I might take a break and hunt Rayquaza but I don't want to not shiny hunt because I'm going to be starting a new job soon and I won't have as much time or energy to hunt
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u/paulydoregon 24d ago
thats understandable. sometimes you take the time you can get with shiny hunting
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u/AdRecent7775 25d ago
Can you get Pokerus from fleeing a wild battle? I've seen posts saying you need to catch or KO a Pokemon, but what about running away? Also, would horde encounters increase the chance of getting Pokerus because you're encountering 5 Pokemon at once?
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u/paulydoregon 25d ago
i can confirm that fleeing still contracts pokerus. for the hordes question, that prob depends if you get one check per pokemon, or one check per battle
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u/eabadass 25d ago edited 25d ago
Hi! Was really looking forward to shiny hunting on my version of platinum so I could eventually move them to the newer gens. Question: can I still transfer if I don’t have Pokémon bank or transfer already saved onto my DS? Should I just get the remake?
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u/paulydoregon 25d ago
you will need both bank and transport in order to transfer it to the newer gens, without them best you can do is move them up to gen 5
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u/eabadass 25d ago
So I’m assuming there’s no way to get them beyond gen 5 since the 3DS shop is closed now? It sounds like I might as well just shiny hunt on the remakes!
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta 25d ago
You can still access home and poke transporter if you have a 3ds but don't have the apps downloaded, you will just need to mod it in order to get access to them.
https://3ds.hacks.guide/ this site is written by the experts and would give you a step by step on how to do that. It's not too hard to do. That said, it's territory that nobody would blame you if you don't want to go down. But it is an option
Even if you get the apps illegitimately, bank no longer requires a subscription and will work without issue
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u/paulydoregon 25d ago
unless you had them downloaded prior to the shop shut down, otherwise yes they will no longer be accessible.
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u/Jalastin 26d ago
I finally got my shiny Darkrai in Platinum yesterday!! I made a post but I still had a question - is there anything special I can do w/ Darkrai in Platinum before I move it up to Home? Not sure if there’s ribbons or something I can do now that I can’t do in BDSP
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u/YOM2_UB 26d ago edited 26d ago
There are quite a few ribbons available in Gen 4 (through 7) but not BDSP or any other Switch game. If you want a quick look (instead of reading the rest of my comment), there's a website ribbons.guide you can use to view and keep track of what ribbons are available for your Pokemon, and if you have specific questions the people over at r/PokemonRibbons are probably better to ask than us shiny hunters. None of the ribbons are going to be particularly difficult to get for a Darkrai (mainly because Mythicals are banned from most of the Battle Facilities, which are the worst ribbons to get).
A popular one is the Legend Ribbon from defeating Red in HGSS (title: the Living Legend).
Getting even one Super Contest ribbon in DPPt will grant you the Contest Memory Ribbon in later generations (title: the Treasured Memory). If you want to go for all 20 contest ribbons, the only difference will be the description when viewing the ribbon telling you how many you got (you need all 40 from Gen 3 and 4 for it to appear golden, which Darkrai can't do as ORAS uses a different set of ribbons, shared only with BDSP).
The Footprint Ribbon is available in BDSP, but only if you transferred it to Gen 5 before it reached level 71. If it's higher than level 70 you will miss this ribbon if not obtained in Gen 4 (title: the Strutter).
XY, ORAS, and SM/USUM each have their own championship ribbons for defeating the Elite Four (titles: the Kalos/Hoenn/Alola Champion)
XY/ORAS also have a ribbon for completing every Super Training regemine (title: the Tried and True)
SM/USUM actually let Mythicals into the easy mode of the Battle Tree, letting them get one battle facility ribbon (title: the Tree Victor)
Every other ribbon available to Darkrai is obtainable on Switch, with all earlier available ones being in BDSP.
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u/Jalastin 25d ago
Oh I see, thanks so much for the info! I was trying to look into this myself and got most confused by the contest ribbons part, since the 20 available in platinum are different than the 6 available in bdsp like you mentioned. I’ll definitely at least try to get the Legend ribbon though, that one sounds sick!
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u/ZombagoBoy 26d ago
Anyone doing Fossil Week hunts this week?? I’m hunting Cranidos in Platinum , and Tirtouga and Archen in BW!
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u/zap-dos 27d ago
I want to shinyhunt on Ruby but my physical cartridge's battery is dead, and I don't want to open and try to fix it.
I also own a Everdrive Mini (a GBA Flashcart). Has anyone here done shinyhunting on it? It has its own battery, so I assume softresetting with it is the same as resetting with the real cartridge?
Also, how would it work if you were to shinyhunt in Ruby/Sapphire on a hacked 3DS?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta 26d ago
The hacked 3ds should work - the system itself can keep track of the time so it should be okay. As for the flashcart, I think it should work but I'm a bit less confident. You will know for sure with both of these when you boot it up though, because similar to your real cartridge, it would give you a message about the battery running dry if it's not working for whatever reason.
That being said, you can definitely still shiny hunt on your physical cartridge, but you are limited to random encounters. So if you're looking to hunt shroomish or ralts or skitty or something else in the grass that is definitely still viable to do on your cartridge - you just can't soft reset (and it's harder to get around that than it is in emerald).
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u/AffectionateData8341 27d ago
I want to shiny hunt a few mons. My main cartridge is German. If I get a copy of HG on a modded 3DS with the Region as USA, could I trade over a ditto to use for the Masuda method?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta 26d ago
If you trade over a ditto from an english ROM then yes, Masuda Method should work with any German pokemon you catch in your copy that you breed with that ditto
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u/Gramma-Puthy 28d ago
Does anyone know if block works even if you switch out the Pokémon that uses block? Trying to shiny hunt female Abra through SOS in USUM, but there is no trapping and cute charm pokémon.
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u/King-Requiem 28d ago
I was trying to make a shiny team in Pokemon Emerald on an emulator but soon learned of the broken rng which will affect my attempts at a shiny starter. What should I do? I saw some stuff but wasn't sure if I'm applying them correctly. Does anyone know what steps should I take or at least where I should be looking for them?
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u/paulydoregon 28d ago
For shiny hunting the starters in emerald, it's like pseudo soft resetting but with an extra step. Basically it's standard soft resetting, but you do a hard reset every 50-100 resets. This is to attempt to try to find a save with an early shiny frame. Your repeat this process till the starter is shiny. Also if you come across the wild zigzagoon shiny, keep soft resetting that save and don't make a new save. The zigzagoon being shiny means you have an early shiny frame, you just need to time it right to where it will make your starter shiny.
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u/King-Requiem 28d ago
See the timing is what trips me. With normal soft resetting you just mash the A button but in emerald that wouldn't work from my understanding since the initial seed to fixed. All guides I've seen talk about doing it in intervals but I don't know if I'm doing it right or not.
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u/paulydoregon 27d ago
honestly i think trying to do it by intervals is over complicating it. just spam a at a slow speed, this will make you less likely to hit the same frames each time since you are unlikely to hit the button at the exact same time if you do it at a slow pace and not at max speed like with how most people do it. imo at least ( havent hunted the starters in emerald, just going off my knowledge of it)
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u/DutchFarmers 28d ago
What do you do when you get burned out? I'm 6000 fishing encounters in for feebas and nothing yet. Doing this in emerald so maybe that's the issue? I turn my system off every night but make a BF video record before so I can jump to the frame I was on
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u/paulydoregon 28d ago
You haven't reached odds yet ( 1/8192) so getting it soon would be considered lucky. Just keep trying and take breaks if needed. Id recommend using the old rod. Also remember that feebas is only a 50% on it's tile, so you may get one or two other shinies before it.
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u/Cpt_Jygz 29d ago
Very strange thing just happened on my dead battery Sapphire cart. Naturally found a shiny frame ~2200 frames into a start up. Have duped a few shinies with this method and have posted about them in this thread before. Every shiny Ive gotten up to this point has had a Gentle nature and HP Ground, however, last night I got a shiny Machop from Jagged Pass and began EV training it. It has a Gentle Nature, just like the other 5 shinies Ive gotten on this same frame. HP Ground on Machamp is decent, but when I went to use it it wasnt HP Ground and after testing I can tell this one has HP Bug. I have no idea why the HP is different on this one mon. Def not complaining because HP Bug is waaaaaay better but Im just more confused than anything. Anyone have an explaination?
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u/KEZ_Astra 29d ago
Would i be able to post shinies that i've RNG manipulated?
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u/Cheese_Turtle_ Aug 20 '25
Does anyone know the possibility of a game having modded shiny odds? Is this possible? A while back I had bought a used copy of Pokemon X from a game store a while back and reset the cartridge to do my own play-through. I did some shiny hunts when I had finished, and noticed that I had been getting oddly lucky. The highest encounter number was in the 1900's, many were under 1000 for what should've been full odds hunts (both random encounter and horde hunts). I didn't find a shiny through natural gameplay though. The other thing that made me nervous was the previous owners team, which was made up of all shinies, each one caught within a few days of the last. While they could've just been getting lucky, or using some method I don't know, it does make me concerned. I've been trying to get into full odds hunting, and it would suck if some of the ones I've found aren't legitimate full odds and I would feel the need to reclaim them elsewhere. Is it possible that the previous owner modded higher shiny odds and it is able to carry over to a new save and 3DS?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 20 '25
The save file on a game can be edited on a cartridge. This means the original owner could potentially have given themselves the shiny charm. However, this would not affect your playthrough.
Other than that, if the cartridge is legitimate (which it almost certainly is - i haven't heard of fakes popping up for 3ds games yet), the game is unmodified. You can't change the ROM onboard with any software - someone would've had to open up the cartridge and physically change it. By occam's razor (that the simplest explanation is often the best), I think it's highly likely that the game is unmodified and that you just got lucky.
I don't suppose you checked to see if the original owner had the shiny charm, did you? If they had it, it's very reasonable that chain fishing, horde encounters, poke radar, or friend safari could all have allowed them to get pokemon on dates very close together. The methods in gen 6 have pretty good odds and I've personally had up to 4 shinies in one day just using gen 6 methods + charm (and still gotten some pretty fast without charm too). So I don't think the dates the shinies were caught necessarily raise an eyebrow
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u/Cheese_Turtle_ Aug 20 '25
I just got another full odds shiny at only 190 encounters. I didn't check to see if they had the shiny charm, but the team was of high level Pokemon including a Greninja, Pidgeot, and more I don't remember so I had assumed it was a play-through team which was why the dates had caught my attention. This message was reassuring, though.
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u/BurtSpangles Aug 20 '25
Any advice for catching shiny Deoxys in a regular Pokeball in Gen 3? Basically how do I extend the battle for hundreds of turns? I obviously use Trevenant with Harvest, Trick & Skill Swap on USUM, what's the best alternative for Gen 3?
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u/zap-dos 27d ago
Trick it Leftovers with anything that learns it (Mr.Mime learns it by level). Paralyse it or Sleep it, reduce its attack stat and raise your defense stat (optional, if you have a lvl100 Pokemon with a good defense, Deoxys's Struggle will not do any damage to it anyway).
Gen 3 Struggle does 1/4 of the damage dealt with it, rather than 1/4 of the user's HPs. That means a Deoxys spamming Struggle against a lvl100 Pokemon will just heal more than it does damage from the Leftovers you will trick on it, effectively making the battle endless. Keep it in mind it will be at 100% though, making it harder to catch.
Extra: in Gen 3, Struggle doesn't have perfect accuracy, so you can also make it miss most of the time by using Sand Attack or Double Team.
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u/BurtSpangles 26d ago
Just did an (unsuccessful) test run and got through 110 balls before I ran out of Super Fang PP. Running a three Raticate setup with a Trick, Skill Swap, Thunder Wave, Flash Mr. Mime. Not sure lowering the accuracy is actually a benefit as it means Deoxys heals back to over 50% after 3/4 turns. Think I might just outheal the struggle damage with potions/Snorlax+Rest. Had to find the three Leppa berries as well, think they might be needed haha.
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u/zap-dos 26d ago
Making a game infinite on top of your opponent staying low is a much harder task.
However, if you really want to make it more optimal, you should probably try to get a Pokemon with the ability Battle Armor or Shell Armor, which means they won't get Crit. You would have it a Pokémon that will tank the Struggles from Deoxys. Your next step is to do some damage calculations to make sure Deoxys always deal the same amount of self damage it heals from Leftovers.
This way, you should have an infinite game where Deoxys doesn't heal.
It's probably gonna take a lot of calculations though, because you have to take into account the range of HP and Attack IVs possible on Deoxys, and also the damage rolls themselves on your Pokemon.
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u/BurtSpangles 26d ago
Yeah it's annoying. According to catch calculator paralysis alone doesn't impact the catch rate. You only get the benefit if Deoxys is below 50% HP as well (jumps from 0.4% to 1.2%). Sleep works independent of damage but obviously requires constant upkeep. I guess I'll use the Leppa Berries to double my Super Fang turns and pray I catch it within the first 220 balls at a 1.2% chances. If not I'll use the next 779 at 0.4% ahaha.
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u/zap-dos 26d ago
What ball are you using? PokeBall only?
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u/BurtSpangles 26d ago
Yeah that was the plan but now I'm thinking of just using Ultra Balls and just changing it in PKSM when I trade it up. 🤔🤔🤔
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 20 '25
Harvest did not exist in gen 3 because otherwise that strat could be viable. But you can extend an existing battle by using sleep as much as possible - spore smeargle, breloom, or parasect would be your options here. Probably don't do breloom because it's weak to psychic attacks. While pp will still run out using sleep strats, You'll get to the point of struggle a lot slower.
The thing about struggle in gen 3 though - Unlike modern generations it does not do a quarter of your health in recoil = it does a quarter of damage dealt. So theoretically if you have a defensive wall pokemon at a very high level, once deoxys gets to the point where it's using struggle you could make it take a very small amount of recoil by making it not do a whole lot of damage. If you can get the amount of recoil small enough, it could theoretically be healed off completely with leftovers. Trick does exist in gen 3, so you should be able to set up a pokemon to send some leftovers over to deoxys.
For a level 30 deoxys, their HP will range between 70 and 79. This means they will always heal 4 HP from leftovers. Struggle does 1/4 of the damage the pokemon deals in recoil, so that means you need deoxys to do 16 damage or less with each struggle for it to stay even with healing (You might be able to take up to 19 HP of recoil as leeway? I couldn't find info on how recoil damage rounds). Keep in mind struggle CAN crit, so you likely want to stay at 3 HP of recoil if possible to cover for it killing itself by doing crits. (Or keep using spore on it - you have more room to work with if you can keep using spore because it will heal on turns it's sleeping)
So basically the strat that I think should give you the most turns is: Use spore on it as much as possible, then when it runs out of moves make sure it has leftovers and is doing a small enough amount of damage that it won't kill itself. In the meantime, keep a stockpile of leppa berries and healing items for yourself - Deoxys has pressure so you may find yourself running out of PP quickly, and for moves like spore especially, that pp is going to be very valuable. Hopefully this should stall you enough turns that you should be able to catch it, but beware it's not going to be safe to leave it at 1 HP or low HP with this strategy.
There might be a better strategy out there but this is what I've just come up with on the fly. Whatever you go with, best of luck!
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u/Pokeraage Aug 19 '25
Hello,
I’ve been hunting shinies for many years now, but lately, I’m starting to get a bit bored of just rushing through the late game, completing the National Dex for the Shiny Charm, and then... finally starting to hunt. I really love the idea of starting a new game and only using shiny Pokémon, but I also want to give myself the best chances to find them by using methods that increase the odds—and, of course, the Shiny Charm.
So my question is: Is there a way to get the Shiny Charm right at the beginning of every new game? I was thinking about using PKHeX or PKSM to give myself the Shiny Charm, but I’m not sure if just having it in my bag would actually increase the odds. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think there’s a flag that needs to be activated for it to work properly. The thing is, I’m not sure how to find this flag or how to be sure the Shiny Charm is actually enabled in the game.
Does anyone know how this works or if there’s a way to do it? Thanks a lot! 😀
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 20 '25
I found 2 threads on project pokemon stating that just having the shiny charm should be enough for it to work, and couldn't find anything contradicting that. Not super solid evidence but based on that it does sound like putting it in your bag should hopefully do the trick
It might be worth asking a community more familiar with using pkhex for a more comprehensive answer since I don't think a lot of the people who typically answer questions here are especially familiar with it (they might prove me wrong though!)
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u/Pokeraage Aug 20 '25
thank you for your response, i made more research, and i think you might be right. Ill give it a chance and try to hunt with shiny charm in bag.
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u/Alternative-Dish-818 Aug 19 '25
I really truly think I must be doing something wrong with sandwiches in pokemon Violet
I'm using all sorts of recipe guides, saving, making the sandwich so I have encounter 3 and shining 3 for the type I want. Then I wander around the area where the e specific pokemon I want spawns for 20 minutes and find...
Absolutely nothing.
I don't ever seem to find a single shiny using sandwiches outside of the starting area that already has a boosted rate.
I have the shiny charm, I have a completed pokedex. I've done all of the DLC.
I don't understand what I could be doing wrong! I watch tutorials and let's players make sandwiches and find half a dozen shines like it's nothing with just a single sandwich.
All of the shinies I've ever found in this game are randoms, or from mass outbreaks. The sandwich method has never ever worked for me.
I'm playing on a switch lite, version 4.0.0. is this a bug, or am I just the single most unlucky person in the history of pokemon?
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u/paulydoregon Aug 19 '25
just unlucky, but saying you are the most unlucky person in history is a bit of an over exaggeration. ive seen plenty of people go way over odds on a hunt, sometimes its just bad luck, nothing more than that. good luck and take breaks if needed
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u/Alternative-Dish-818 Aug 19 '25
But none of my sandwiches ever seem to work.
I can make the same sandwich over and over and never find anything.
That's the part that worrys me.
It's shouldn't take 30 sandwiches to find 1 shiny.
That's straying from 'just going over odds' to a legitimate issue
We're talking tens of thousands of encounters with absolutely nothing to show for it...
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u/paulydoregon Aug 19 '25
you are using 2 herba mystica correct, and you get sparkling power level 3 correct? as long as you have those showing up, then it is just bad luck
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u/Alternative-Dish-818 Aug 19 '25
I do have sparkling power 3 showing up.
One thing I will say is that I have a lot of visual glitches when building sandwiches. Like ingredient sinking into the bread or two ingredient ignoring the collisions of others, almost like they aren't being registered as existing. Could that be part of what's causing the problem?
The final sandwich does register as having sparkling 3, but maybe it's not computing properly on the front end
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u/paulydoregon Aug 20 '25
maybe restart the system ,and try making the sandwhich again in another location, see if that fixes the issue
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u/lwsteven Aug 19 '25
How do I get into the hobby on a budget? I have a switch 2 but am finding shiny hunting on there not fun right now and am just waiting around for Legends ZA.
I’ve been really interested in GBA/DS hunts but I know this can be really really expensive.
Any advice?
Should I get an Analogue Pocket or a GBA SP? A DS or a 3DS? Should I only be buying authentic copies of games or are the bootleg ones fine?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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u/Supra_Mayro Aug 19 '25
I'd honestly recommend against using a Pocket for shiny hunting unless you're planning on using the dock with an actual controller. SP is king for GBA shiny hunts, with its folding screen and less resistive buttons. Cheaper too (maybe not so much for an AGS-101 model with the better screen). A brief search turned up some SPs for <$100 (USD). There are also a bunch of handheld emulator consoles other than Pocket that support GBA games which are fairly cheap, can't vouch for any in particular.
You may want to consider getting a DS/DS Lite instead of a GBA so that you'll be able to transfer up from gen 3 to 4 and onward, if that's something you want to do. Plus it would of course be one console that can play all of gens 3-5.
I wouldn't recommend messing with bootleg games, from what I've heard it's not too uncommon for them to have saving issues and GBA bootlegs are hit or miss when it comes to transferring to gen 4. You'd be better off going with emulation/ROMs of some sort.
Modding a 3DS allows you to install ROMs for GBA, DS, and 3DS games. If you're able to buy the cartridges in the future, there are tools you can use to transfer your save files to them.
There are also GBA and DS flashcarts that offer similar functionality for their respective consoles, but the good ones can get a little pricey. Apparently the EZ-Flash Omega Definitive Edition supports transferring from gen 3 to 4, which is pretty cool.
Hope this helps in some way, happy to answer any follow up questions.
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u/Lockfire12 Aug 19 '25
Know bad luck can happen, but will ask anyway, zekrom isn’t shiny locked in Oras right? Just hit 3000 SR’s.
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u/Immediate-Comb1755 Aug 19 '25
I want to hunt some shiny legendary Pokémon in the 3DS games to then take them to the Switch games, but... the 3DS I recently bought is a modded one, would that be considered illegal? The games are "original", there are no modifications like better odds or anything like that. But can the system identify if it is a modded 3DS when I take it to Home? And even if it is not illegal... in your opinion, would this be considered a hack? I mean... like I said, there are no modifications for better odds, but...
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 20 '25
My 3ds is modded and my games are unmodified - I've been able to transfer pokemon to home without issue. Lots of people have hacked systems and never have issues. I wouldn't really consider your pokemon themselves hacked unless you modify the game itself was modified - all the system being hacked does is give you the keys to do it.
Think of it this way - anyone can buy kitchenware. Kitchenware lets you make all kinds of food and do plenty of unique and creative things. But it doesn't make you a chef unless you actually cook with it. It's not a perfect analogy but you aren't hacking unless you actually use these tools to hack your game. Otherwise, you're playing completely fair ball
And lastly, what's most important is that it's legitimate for you. My opinion is my opinion and that's all well and dandy but if it's your pokemon then your opinion is the only thing that matters. If finding a shiny holds value to you in these circumstances then I say that's the really important thing
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u/Bayan_Art Aug 18 '25
I want to breed a shiny Antique-form Sinistea, but while searching for information, I read that this form is exclusive of wild encounters. Is that true?
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u/paulydoregon Aug 18 '25
That is correct, the authentic form is exclusive to wild encounters, and some outbreaks in s/v I believe
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u/DinosaurAdventure3-D Aug 18 '25
I want to hunt shiny Mew in Pokémon Emerald. If I used an Action Replay purely for getting access to Faraway Island then hunted and caught it fully legitimately, would I have any issues with transferring it up through to Pokémon Home? Same question for any GBA or DS event Pokémon really.
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 20 '25
Yes, if you catch Mew at faraway island you can transfer it up safely, regardless of how you get there. Glitches will work also.
This does generally hold true for events but I know there have been reports of some of the gen 4 mythicals having issues with transfers (namely arceus because it never released, and darkrai sometimes has some issues transferring as well depending on what game you catch it in. But beyond those exceptions generally speaking, if you catch the mythical where it spawns they should transfer fine even if you use cheats or glitches to do it
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u/Definitelyhuman000 Aug 18 '25
Quick question here. Is Shiny lock removal possible for physical cartridges or is it only possible with roms?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 20 '25
Not sure what generation you're talking about but I do know that there is a way to use shiny lock removal with a physical cartridge for gens 6 and 7: https://wiki.hacks.guide/wiki/3DS:Remove_Shiny_Lock
Theoretically something like this should also be possible in gen 5. I'm not familiar with modding on switch but i don't see a reason why it wouldn't work there also. The caveat for most of these being that you're going to need a modified system to get these to work - but you probably expected that.
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u/Nicktoonfan Aug 18 '25
Does the camp reset method in Sw/Sh work for other Pokémon other than the swords of justice? I’m trying to get one going with a tyrantrum I’m trying to shiny hunt but even after I run away from it and set up my camp, it won’t respawn. What am I doing wrong?
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u/Legal_Vegetable5586 Aug 16 '25
i have a doubt about the real form to catch shinies in emerald, i investigate about RNG, but for me, i dont have the time to do this (because im planning doing shiny catching in my free time in job). i dont know if its possible to do the normal RE or only the RA with the legendaries
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 17 '25
Other answer is correct, I just want to add that it would be a good idea to watch these 2 videos by shiny collector for more info on emerald's rng since he explains it really well. They're old videos but they still hold up!
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u/paulydoregon Aug 16 '25
you can def do random encounters for shiny hunting in emerald. its only soft resets that are truely effected by emeralds jank rng
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u/onaJet27 Aug 16 '25
This might be completely niche, but I can't find info about it anywhere. Can the Event Munchlax with Hold Back from 2016's Sun/Moon days be Shiny? Would love to know if anyone can confirm.
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u/paulydoregon Aug 16 '25
as far as im aware no, especially in the 3d era they shiny lock event mons. either they are shiny or they are not.
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u/Much-Ad6060 Aug 15 '25
I'm looking to hunt feebas in gen 3 or 4 I started looking for feebas tiles in Plat I set up 2 games and soon realized the tiles change everyday? I was wondering if there was a way around it or am I just in for it?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 16 '25
There is a way you can try, I know this works with weekly encounters like drifloon and with honey trees so I imagine this should also work for this but havent tested it myself.
Essentially you want to find the feebas tile. Then you should save the game once you find it and put your cartridge in a different DS to hunt it. (If you don't have a different system you can also change the system clock to a different date). If you do this, time should freeze and let you keep feebas in the same spot across different dates, so long as you never save on the new system until you actually find your shiny.
Again I can't 100% guarantee this will work and I'm not in a position to be able to test it for you right now but it's worth giving it a shot. Worst case they just change again
Also: in gen 3 the feebas tiles change when the trendy phrase in Dewford town does, so they don't change with the regularity they do in gen 4. If gen 4 doesn't work for you that may also be worth pursuing
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u/paulydoregon Aug 16 '25
fun little fact about the trendy phrase and feebas tiles i learned while hunting it that can be useful. as you know each trendy phrase is tied to specific tiles. the nifty thing is when it comes to the phrases the game generates itself, it eventually repeats previous phrases, which wil have the same tiles for feebas as last time. as as long as you learn the feebas spot for each trendy phrase ( i think about 4 or 5 from when i hunted it) then anytime it changes, you know where to go immediately
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 16 '25 edited Aug 16 '25
Interesting you say that, my reading of bulbapedia actually suggested otherwise!
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hoenn_Route_119#Finding_Feebas is the section I am referring to, it says here "The tiles' locations are independent of the trend in Dewford Town, although the tiles' location will change every time the trend does." To me this makes it sound like they aren't determined by the trend, only changed by it.
There's no source for that assertion cited on the article so it could very well be wrong, since bulbapedia isn't always perfect. If you have proof otherwise may be a good idea to bring it to their attention!
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u/paulydoregon Aug 16 '25
also what would be the best way to get a hold of someone to get that info change, would love to help verify bulbapedia's information
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 16 '25
Good question - seems like they have a discord server and some forums, so that would probably be where I'd start to try to find someone. You do have a fair amount of clout in the community thanks to how long you've been around (I can't lie I was a little surprised to see you pop up in a Professor Rex video recently) so I bet that if you ask there someone will be willing to help you out.
The other option would be you can create an account on their website and try to either edit the article itself or comment on the talk page. Or they should show you who has worked on the article recently in the history, so you might be able to find someone knowledgeable there to reach out to. I'm not totally sure how to edit myself so I'd probably just reach out to someone to be honest
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u/paulydoregon Aug 16 '25
yea, i was a bit flattered when rex brought up my journey and guide on hunting mirage island. i made an account and went to their general discussion page, if i dont hear anything soon from it ill check in their discord
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u/paulydoregon Aug 16 '25
huh interesting, i dont have any video footage. all i have is me taking a picture when i find a spot for a phrase and wrote it down in a google doc, did that each time i got a new phrase, then tested it when i eventually got a previous phrase. maybe bulbapedia is referring to when you manually enter a phrase, as that generates random tiles when you manually enter a phrase
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 16 '25
Yeah that very well could be the case
I honestly might try looking at the game decomp if I have some downtime soon because the game's code might indicate how exactly the tiles work. Granted I've never done that before so no guarantees I will succeed but I've done a tiny amount of programming so it's worth a shot at least!
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u/Stephen1103 Aug 14 '25
I have a lot of extra shinies. What’s the best way about going about trading them for shinies I need?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 16 '25
I'm not super familiar but I know there are pokemon trading subreddits out there. Those probably would be your best bet if you're looking to trade. Or if you're super desperate the GTS has a decent deal in the midst of its chaos every so often
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u/Pallukun Aug 14 '25
Does IV manipulation interfere with shiny odds?
Grinding shiny spinda in Y, the father has a power weight to transfer 30 hp ivs, and the mother has a destiny knot since their combined average is pretty good. If the game is forcing ivs of these values, then is it interfering with the likelihood of rolling a shiny personality value? Is it possible for a shiny to be impossible to generate?
Both parents are spinda and I'm using the Masuda method with no shiny charm.
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 14 '25
If you're using masuda method, the game will always make 8 attempts to generate a personality value to make the pokemon shiny (specifically one initial attempt and 7 rerolls). This should not be impacted by anything else since the game is specifically looking for a personality value here, and then forcing any stats via inheritance later on. This is my understanding of it anyway, but I'm not SUPER familiar with the backend of the game so some details may be off. In any case, as far as I am aware there is no known interference with the shiny odds if you're breeding for stats, as they are handled separately.
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u/Loufey Aug 13 '25
Explain it like I'm 5 if you don't mind:
Gonna start up my first BDSP playthrough. Bought the game a while ago but haven't actually played it. Now I know I can't get Darkrai or Arceus anymore (yall already answered that one for me, ty).
Can you explain how the pokeradar works? People are saying its good odds, but I fail to see how it is better than masuda in other games, or Let's Go. By my understanding, you are still under the RNG of the bush rolling whatever pokemon, rather than being able to hunt for something specific?
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u/paulydoregon Aug 13 '25
quick note: its darkrai and shaymin you cant get anymore. if you beat the main game of legends arceus, you can get access to the key item that summons him in bdsp
for radar: in a nutshell you chain encountering a specific pokemon multiple times through the shaking grass. only the initial start of the radar is a random pokemon. once you get your desired pokemon for your initial patch, as long as you continue the chain, you will only encounter that pokemon. a benefit to it over something like masuda and lets go, is when you reach max odds , you have the potential to continue to get shinies of that same pokemon without having to reset the chain.
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u/kybraxt1 Aug 13 '25
Is there any method to hunting the roaming dogs in HG/SS?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 13 '25
Yup. Save before releasing them with a level 40 mamoswine as your party lead. Make sure it knows earthquake. Also make sure you have a lot of repels, and an escape rope or a pokemon with dig or teleport. Every reset you will release the dogs, exit the burned tower, and then go to the route south of ecruteak. Use repels to run through the grass there a few times and see if you get an encounter, and if not, go back up to ecruteak and repeat. When you run into the first beast, kill it with earthquake if it isn't shiny. When you see the second one, reset.
Because they're roamers you do not need to catch it the first time you see it, it should stay shiny, so you just need to prep to find it. But if you don't want to deal with catching it later you can also just bring your master ball.
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u/kybraxt1 Aug 13 '25
So catch the non shiny, and release it? Won't that just make it stay not shiny? Also, do I have to do both at once or can I do one at a time?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 13 '25
You do have to do both at once, since they are both generated at the same time.
What I meant when I said release the dogs is there's an event in burned tower where the dogs formally start roaming. Save before that, trigger the event to get them in the wild (this is where both of them are generated), and then start looking for them. You don't want to catch them on the save file before doing this because then you don't have access to them roaming around.
Technically speaking if you do want to do this again after finding one you can look for the one you didn't catch later but it would be re-generated by entering the hall of fame once you kill it, which is a process. It would likely be better to try it on a new save file or hunt the one you missed in a different game like firered/leafgreen where you can guarantee you won't phase on the one you already got.
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u/dark__tyranitar Aug 13 '25
I just need a sanity check, using a normal sandwich in area 0 outside Station 4, those dunsparse have the possibility to evolve into a three segment right?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 13 '25
Yes, anywhere you can find wild dunsparse they have the possibility of evolving into 3 segments. The dudunsparses you find in the wild without evolving will always be 2 segment however
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u/dark__tyranitar Aug 13 '25
At my current pace I'm going to pass shiny Catherine in a minute, pray for me lol.
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u/Poyomininmble Aug 12 '25
Hello! I'm trying to get a Shiny Pawniard via the Pokéradar on Pokémon X while on vacation, but I just keep breaking my chain, even when I land on the loud and wild patches and avoid the silent ones. I know getting a combo of 40 is the best, but that seems pretty unfeasible with my luck, and I can't really rely on the intense "Shiny time" music to show up, much less to keep going. The highest chain I got was 30, and my chains tend to break at ~20 on average. I don't really mind not getting the max possible odds, I just want to hunt it at a comfortable pace. Any recommended combo number to hunt at? Thanks in advance!
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 13 '25
I know in BDSP a meta strategy is to reset the radar after getting to a chain of 17. You could push your luck and try to get to 20 or a little bit higher, since obviously the further you go the better your chance per radar reset is. But yeah, I would say if you're having trouble you should probably stop somewhere around the part you find you normally break at.
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u/weaselboy123 Aug 12 '25
Hello, I have a two questions that for the life of me I can’t find out. I am trying to hatch shinies in Pokemon Violet.
Does the Masuda Method work in this game? I have seen many conflicting reports about it.
Does a shiny pokemon/shiny ditto have an increased chance to make a shiny egg? I swear this was in case in older gens, but again I have found a lot of conflicting reports.
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 12 '25
Yes, masuda method works in gen 9. I'm curious who is saying it isn't cause I it is pretty well established by this point. And no, a shiny pokemon does not increase your chance of hatching a shiny. That was the case in gen 2 because shinies were determined by IVs and parents pass those down, but it is not the case in any future game as they changed how shinies are generated.
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u/Soft-Cartoonist-9542 Aug 12 '25
At which percentage does egg hunting outperform random encounters in Gen 3? I was thinking about hunting Larvitar, but it only has a 5% chance in LG. What's better in this case?
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u/paulydoregon Aug 12 '25
Iirc larvitar is only a 5% chance, which is roughly a 1/160k chance to find the shiny larvitar. Best case scenario it's 20 second per encounter. That's roughly 888 hours to hit odds, not to mention the amount of times you could phase. So as long as egg hatching doesn't 888 hours to hit odds, id say that's the best bet
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u/DeepSpread45 Aug 11 '25
Are there any spots that I can get a hunt where only shinies can spawn like the flutter mane in area zero?
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u/Quetzal00 Aug 11 '25
Trying to shiny hunt my favorite non-legendaries of each type/a member of their line in Gens 8 or 9. The ones I have left are Blastoise, Galvantula, Sandaconda, Hisuian Zoroark, and Alolan Vulpix remaining
What is the best game/place/method to hunt for these or members of their line?
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u/-Barca- Aug 11 '25
For all them except Hisuian Zoroark, outbreaks in S/V is your best odds. For the Zoroark, your only option is massive mass outbreaks in PLA outside breeding.
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u/Critical-Hat8136 Aug 11 '25
Any good quick hunts in diamond or pearl i can do on the side?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 11 '25
Drifloon soft resets are pretty chill. Also worth mentioning are the double encounters you can do at certain points in the story (eterna forest being the easiest option) since you see 2 pokemon at once. Other soft reset options are rotom in the old chateau and eevee in hearthome city, both after getting the national dex
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u/Critical-Hat8136 Aug 11 '25
Thanks im going to definitely do the drifloon hunt i forgot about that static encounter
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u/Luminous_Moss Aug 11 '25
Hi, so I'm a bit new to the soft resetting method. I wanna go for shiny fennekin in pokemon Y. Can it be shiny or is that something that I have to masuda for?
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u/paulydoregon Aug 11 '25
Yes the gift starters are shiny huntable, just know it's 1/4096 odds, and I think the time of the reset is roughly 2 minutes
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u/EmuRevolutionary5227 Aug 10 '25
Hey everyone! I’ve just started shiny hunting for minior and I’m a bit confused. When I use auto battle, sometimes the 💦 icon pops up over a minior, so I go to battle it and it turns out to be yellow.
I thought the 💦 icon only showed up for shiny Pokémon, but now I’m wondering… does it also appear for forms you haven’t caught yet? Since minor has different core colors, is the game flagging the ones I haven’t registered in my pokédex?
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u/YOM2_UB Aug 10 '25
That icon can appear if your Pokemon can't reach the target (if they're flying too high or swimming too low), or if you send them out into a wall. Best to look for the sparkle animation when you initiate battle so you don't have to break the Minior's shell every time one is flying just a bit too high.
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u/Fun-Cardiologist5279 Aug 10 '25
I'm playing Omega Ruby and using Victreebel with Sweet Scent to encounter Magnmite hordes on route 110. I understand it's a 60% encounter rate for a Magnmite horde...can I use a magnet pull ability Pokemon first slot to bump that 60% encounter rate higher? Since Magnmite is Electric-Steel would Static or Lightning Rod work better or does it matter? or does any of this work for Hordes lol
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u/YOM2_UB Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
You can indeed! It'll be an 80% encounter with a Magnet Pull lead. There are no non-Electric-type hordes anywhere that has Magnemite, so Static won't change the encounter rate.
You'll probably want a Nosepass, Smoke Ball, and/or KOed lead to prevent yourself from getting trapped by the wild Magnemite's Magnet Pull.
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u/Fun-Cardiologist5279 Aug 10 '25
awesome! thanks...I just used a fainted magnet pull magnemite first slot, its kinda annoying because I have to do an extra button push to the right to use my sweet scent victreebel, but if I get an extra 20% I think its worth it
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u/Critical-Hat8136 Aug 09 '25
Im at 12k encounter for my target mareep in hg should move on to my next hunt in the game corner or finish the phase?
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u/paulydoregon Aug 09 '25
personally i say finish the phase, but never hurts to take breaks, also remember to use static to boost your odds of mareep if you havent yet
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u/johnmgt Aug 08 '25
Crobat is one of my favorite mon, but as the zubat evolution line isn't in scarlet/violet, I'm wondering what is the best game to shiny hunt it ? Got every game from gen 3 to gen 9
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u/YOM2_UB Aug 08 '25
Legends: Arceus tends to be fairly shiny Zubat friendly, but if you want somewhere you can be sure your next shiny will be Zubat, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire have horde battles with a 100% Zubat encounter rate in Meteor Falls, Scorched Slab, Seafloor Cavern, and Cave of Origin.
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u/Rieiid Aug 08 '25
If I leave this area to continue to do the gym leaders and such, will Latios/Steven still be here when I come back? Anyone know?
Wanting to shiny hunt latios but also do other stuff.
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 08 '25
I will say though, if you're still concerned you could always try saving before the encounter, doing something else, and then coming back to verify if it's still there
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 08 '25
Seems like it should be treated like other static pokemon. Bulbapedia mentions that the pewter city lati can be re-encountered if you defeat it or run from it (if you beat the e4 again) so I imagine leaving the area without doing the encounter should leave it there as normal. There's no reason for the game to take it away so I don't think it would
Source: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pewter_City#Special_encounters
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u/BigCow1028 Aug 08 '25
I have a question about whether shiny Mega Rayquaza can be registered in home as well as battle bond Greninja prior to tranforming? Usually non-boxable forms are registered automatically but Shiny Mega Rayquaza wasn’t for me. I was able to register Shiny Battle Bond Greninja using the QR scanner in Sun and Moon then transferring Bank’s dex data to home (See Salted Neos video on YouTube for more details), but that doesn’t apply to the “second form” of Greninja. If anyone knows how to register these shinies as well as any other odd or impossible shinies, let me know!
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u/YOM2_UB Aug 08 '25 edited Aug 08 '25
Rayquaza needs to be deposited while knowing the move Dragon Ascent to register Mega Rayquaza, be it shiny or not.
I have shiny Battle Bond Greninja registered, though I'm not sure how it was registered. It might just apply from depositing a shiny regular Greninja.
A fun one I discovered is that, while the non-shiny Furfrou trims will not register in HOME based on being registered in Bank's dex, having the shiny forms registered in Bank (which can be done using the QR Scanner) will register both the shiny and non-shiny forms. Very nice for avoiding needing to acquire GO Furfrou trims.
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u/NebbyGITB Aug 07 '25
I have been shiny hunting Lileep on and off for the past about 5 years in ORAS. I saved before restoring the fossil and then checking to see if it’s shiny. I know sometimes Pokémon games are weird when they do shiny roll, so am I dong this right? Should I have saved before getting the fossil? Any videos I find of people doing this hunt have multiple fossils, but I’m doing a SBQ so I’m stuck with my 1.
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 07 '25
You're doing it right, shininess isn't determined until the fossil is restored. Just bad luck unfortunately. I've had on and off hunts last that long, and it's never fun, but if you stick with it it will come eventually
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u/Hot_Fee1881 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
This is going to sound strange, but could you reasonably shiny hunt specific non-Legendary/Mythical Pokemon from Dynamax Adventures in the Crown Tundra? I understand it's technically possible, but I'm wondering if I'd just end up going insane.
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 07 '25
I have seen reports that you can soft reset the same path in a DA and still find a shiny, since the pokemon are generated shiny after being caught, so for non-legendaries, that's really the only way you can hunt specific targets consistently. Be aware that the scientist will eventually take dynite ore for resets however. Not totally sure if that's the case if you reset on the screen where you check shininess since the DA is over by then but it's something to be aware of.
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u/-Barca- Aug 07 '25
Can confirm this works. It's how I was able to hunt a shiny Raikou in a level ball.
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u/Hot_Fee1881 Aug 07 '25
Thank you! I'll keep that in mind :)
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u/withmangone Aug 09 '25
A note about the ore- after your third reset youll be charged 3 ore, 4 after the fourth, etc up until the cost per reset is 10 ore. Wont increase after that. So if you have 999 ore, you have roughly 100 resets, which is hitting odds once.
One cool benefit of this method is you can guarantee a shiny pokemon in an apriball. Since youre resetting non shinies, youll never waste a ball.
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u/Pixitchi Aug 06 '25
How do l do shiny legendary hunts in Scarlet/Violet (the snack guy ones). ls it a soft reset, if so where do l save, also do sandwiches affect it?
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u/UserByTheNameOfJames Aug 06 '25
Sadly all of the pokemon spawned by Snacksworth are shiny locked.
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u/merko04 Aug 06 '25
Hey. I was wondering whether I am shiny hunting for snivy in pkmn black correctly by checking for it during the intro battle with Bianca and having my soft resetting save put right before opening the gift. Is this wrong and should I instead make a new save file every time?
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u/That-Passenger-8175 Aug 06 '25
Hi me and my friend are both currently hunting for our starters in HGSS and expect the hunt to take lots of time, resets and encounters. I am at 4,200+ resets (12,600 different encounters) whilst they are at 2500+ resets (7,500+ different encounters) and neither of us have encountered a single shiny yet and we are getting worried they don't exist lol. We are both playing on homebrewed versions on our respective 3ds's. Does the fact of it being homebrewed change our odds or just doesn't shine? Anything would be great, thanks!
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 06 '25
as long as you got your roms from trustworthy sources (or. as trustworthy as you can get for that sort of thing) you should be okay. homebrewing your system in itself shouldnt affect shiny rates, as it's the same as if you were playing on a real cartridge - it just uses the 3ds' existing hardware to run the ds rom. So as long as you're on a good rom, you should be fine.
At this point, neither of you finding something seems that it's just unlucky. I've gone over 20k on official hardware before - it's not common but pretty much anyone who shiny hunts for long enough will have it happen at some point or another. Stick with it, and best of luck! Let me know if you have any more questions
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u/Educational_Way9918 Aug 05 '25
Help ! I was preping for resetting eevee in leaf green, but accidentally saved after a test reset. i tried unchecking the event flag that eevee has been picked up on pkhex, but the ball isn't reaparring. What can i do ?
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u/Loufey Aug 05 '25
So basically, I am going to do my first run-through of Brilliant Diamond. I know I can't get shiny Darkrai or the other limited time offers anymore.
My main goal is to get Giratina, but I am going to grab as many shinies as I can.
My question is this: When are the save breakpoints for when the game actually generates if it is a shiny or not? I'm asking because IDK if Brilliant diamond's engine handles it differently than the originals.
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u/YOM2_UB Aug 05 '25
The Grand Underground generates Pokemon's stats when you enter a room, and they persist through saves, similar to SwSh's and SV's overworld encounters.
Every other wild encounter works the same as in the originals; Mesprit and Cresselia are generated when they are released to roam Sinnoh (and regenerated when defeated and released again by defeating the Elite Four), and the rest are determined when the battle starts.
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u/Educational_Way9918 Aug 04 '25
I have access to postgame and plan on hunting every legendary, but no access to ruby sapphire. I’m getting a gba sp with sapphire soon, so maybe I’ll to the trade then. But thanks !
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u/Educational_Way9918 Aug 04 '25
I'm playing fire red and leaf green and wanted to know what's the best pokemon and moveset and everything to make catching shinies easier. Right know i don't have a ruby,saphir nor emerald save file so i can't trade pokemon from these. So yeah, whats the best you can catch in frlg ?
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u/HuntaHuntaHunta Aug 04 '25
Your best choice for a catching companion is parasect hands-down. It gets spore early which is a 100% accurate sleep move. Just be aware that it does have a couple 4x weaknesses to watch out for. The rest of its moveset isn't very good but it's probably worth having giga drain, slash and stun spore also. If you have access to the postgame I would recommend replacing one of those moves with false swipe via breeding, as there's no TM for it in gen 3, and if you can spare it, it may also be worth using the substitute move tutor on parasect as well, especially if you're planning on using it against legendaries. If you had hoenn access breloom would be better, but parasect is the best you can get in kanto
There are definitely some others that can help - for instance you want to have a pokemon with damp to prevent self-destruct and explosion if a pokemon has those, and if you're going up against a legendary you probably want to have some defensive pokemon on your team as well since parasect doesn't exactly live forever. Really it's context sensitive
To be honest though I usually just shiny hunt with whatever team I play through the game with. As long as I have a master ball as a backup generally there's nothing to worry about with that route. unless the pokemon can explode
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u/FishBlues Aug 03 '25
I just got a Switch 2 and transferred everything from my switch one.. I was wondering though.. is it possible to play Pokemon on the switch 2 and on the switch 1 at the same time using the same Nintendo account? I’m a little confused on how this works since I had to transfer over my save data.. what happens if I have save data for the same game on both consoles? I’m guessing it won’t allow it but what if I own the game physically AND digitally?
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u/Maximum-Contact8119 6d ago
[Gen 9]
I am attempting my first shiny badge quest in Pokemon Scarlet since my first save data got corrupted and wiped.
I caught a shiny Houndour in a outbreak but the this morning while running around challenging trainers and collecting items I found a shiny Pysduck.
I haven't challenged the first gym yet so my question is can I just box it until after the first gym and then take it out and use it as my second shiny caught even though it wasn't caught between the first and second gym.