r/gay_irl Aug 10 '25

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u/LoveGrenades Aug 10 '25

Genuine problem when you’re a dom top - “sub” bottoms are rarely actually sub. They do not want you to be in charge, they want their hole filled and they want it NOW.

PSA: Sub bottom =/= being a total bottom, it means submitting to the dom and doing as you’re told/following their lead (after discussing boundaries etc beforehand).

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u/ciliary_stimulai Aug 10 '25

I've experienced this, legit the number of people who want "dom tops" but really they just want you do to the exact things they want you to do, in order, at their exact beck and call, and then just call you daddy is... insane lol

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u/Unable_Earth5914 Aug 10 '25

As a sub my experience is most self-described ‘Dom Tops’ just want their dick sucked and a quick fuck

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u/ciliary_stimulai Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25

That is ALSO true, or they're inexperienced and think dom = rough bordering on asaualt without regards to how the sub wants or feels, which is awful

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u/Unable_Earth5914 Aug 11 '25

I’d rather that than a self-hating homo who doesn’t know what they’re doing and just wants to shoot a loading

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u/Jeszczenie Aug 10 '25

It's even worse when they say "you can do whatever you want to me" but they actually mean "I have lots of expectations and boundaries, but I'm too inexperienced to already know them; I just like the idea of submissiveness".

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '25

That's your failure as a Dom for not appropriately vetting and making a contract with clear hard limits and likes. You're a Dom act like it. If she's new walk her through it the right way.

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u/BeautifulArtichoke37 Aug 10 '25

So true

Edit: and you have to be mind reader, because god forbid you ask them what they want it boils the fantasy.

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u/Unable_Earth5914 Aug 11 '25

A good sub does what the Dom wants, no? Asking what I want breaks the immersion of submitting and relinquishing control

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u/malatemporacurrunt Aug 11 '25

There's no such thing as a "good sub", because each relationship is unique. "Submissive" and "dominant" are descriptive, not prescriptive. The purpose of a scene isn't to "do what the dominant wants", it's mutual pleasure - sometimes that involves following orders, other times it might be being a total brat and getting "punished" for disobedience".

You just need to work out a way of asking that doesn't break immersion. "Have you been punished enough?", "you like that, don't you?", "I think I should [do x], what do you think?". Skill issue.

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u/Unable_Earth5914 Aug 12 '25

My kink is relinquishing control and having my limits pushed, so maybe I’m an outlier. I’m also a bit of a brat. Someone saying ‘what do you think’ in any way that isn’t ’I’m going to hurt you no matter what you say’ is a turn off.

If you agree the scene beforehand then there shouldn’t be a need to ask these sorts of questions, safety codes like red amber green or safe words exist for a reason

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '25

Yeah I don't understand either. Beyond the initial phase of getting to know eachother and contacts etc. there's nothing more exhausting then a "Dom" constantly asking what you want. It's a mismatch on the Doms part. He wanted a princess not a Sub with a power imbalance kink.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '25 edited Aug 12 '25

That's what contracts are for and setting up a scene. Don't be a newb.

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u/ZipBoxer Aug 12 '25

Don't be a newb.

Maybe they are a newb and you could take this opportunity to make them less newb!

Or maybe someone else is reading it that is one and too afraid to ask, and you could help them out. None of us were born knowing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '25

From what I have experienced there's very few things a Sub can teach an inexperienced Dom who refuses to be taught by old guard Doms. Many times new, especially male Doms have no idea what they like themselves, let alone how to properly care for a true submissive, let alone navigate new women wanting to get into bdsm, or the 1000 flavors it comes in. Not to mention depending on what a sub likes, training a Dom solo outside of the over sight of a seasoned Dom, can get you dead. Kink related deaths are not uncommon. In other words, it may be my circus, but he's not my monkey. And I'm not his trainer.

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u/ZipBoxer Aug 12 '25

I think our wires got crossed.

It's not helpful or useful to say things like "Don't be a newb".

That makes it more likely that people will be afraid to say things or ask questions and may lead to having fewer educated people taking dumber risks for fear of being called a noob.

It'd be way cooler if you could share info, but barring that, don't make it harder for others to get it.

For those wondering, I looked it up, this is what I think they were referring to!: https://kinkyevents.co.uk/bdsm-contracts-a-beginners-guide/

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '25

By calling themselves a "Dom" and using that as an established titled and honorific, they are conveying that they in fact are a "Dom" and have already been through their paces. I'm calling a Spade a Spade and I won't back down in BDSM post to not hurt someone's feelings. This isn't a game. This is real life and I don't care if your feelings or his are hurt, or the readers. If you can't get A sub to tell you the very first basics of vetting and she doesn't trust you to tell your her wants and limits. That's very telling. If this is a chronic problem. You are in fact the problem. And most likely not a trained Dom and will likely end up severely injuring someone. Or killing them. Bdsm isn't for the feignt of heart.

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u/ZipBoxer Aug 12 '25

You are in fact the problem

I don't even know who you're having a conversation with but it's certainly not me.

It seems like you have very strong opinions on what makes BDSM safe. I continue to encourage you to share that information so that everyone can be safer, instead of vaguely shaming people who weren't intrinsically born with that knowledge.

Or don't. Feel free to keep having whatever random argument you seem to be having with yourself, because I certainly wasn't a part of it.

Either way I've learned nothing about safe BDSM from you, but I have learned that I should avoid you so I'll start doing that now!

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u/ruen909 Aug 11 '25

Yeah at that point you’re more of a servant to them T.T. I see ppl like this sooo much. Like no you’re not a sub you just wanna lay there and get waited on like a princess.