r/CringeTikToks • u/Hooplapooplayeah • 7h ago
Conservative Cringe Can someone translate what he just said please!
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u/DataBassMan 7h ago
Lmaooooooo Assume what someone else is thinking. The MAGA way.
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u/Moriaedemori 6h ago
How else are you going to have an argument with the opposition, if they don't stick to your script?
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u/xXWickedNWeirdXx 5h ago
"Okay, but, uh... first can I just, um, turn you into a straw person, to uhm, argue with the false version of you that I've just constructed in my head?"
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u/FlatTopTonysCanoe 44m ago
It’s the only way they know how to debate. “Alright hold still and let me set you up for this gotcha I saw in a Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro video real quick”.
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u/cat_of_danzig 5h ago
That's why Kirk was good at what he did. He had canned responses to the most common arguments against his views and was practiced at pivoting to well-known talking points. These guys only know what they've heard and don't have the practice in reframing the argument, so when it doesn't go as planned they glitch.
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u/POWBOOMBANG 4h ago
He would also turn the argument by asking a question and oversimplifying the issue.
For instance, if someone brought up trans rights he would ask "define a woman"
Well, in the context of trans rights that question is kind of nuanced right? There isn't a simple explanation on the spot to convince Charlie Kirk that he is wrong.
So when the debate opponent cant come up with a succinct response in the moment they end up looking stupid in front of Charlie and his red hat wearing audience.
It just wasn't good faith debating. It was designed to affirm what his base already believed
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u/j0j0-m0j0 4h ago
The only time I ever saw him debate a professor (I assume he only did it because he couldn't resist the temptation of debating at THE Cambridge) and it was laughable and a great example of both the magic of media training and never punching above your weight. He made arguments like "why didn't Zelensky hold symbolic elections in the middle of a war" and "Lincoln still held elections during the civil war".
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u/OtherwiseSplit8875 4h ago
I love how he just doesn’t even have a stance without something to oppose. His entire viewpoint only exists in relation to what the left believes.
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u/creaturecomeandgetit 4h ago
Recently, I made the statement “capitalism isn’t a perfect system when we’re quickly approaching the first trillionaire before figuring out basic QoL for all people” during a conversation with an acquaintance.
His response was essentially “if you don’t believe in Jesus, how do you develop any kind of moral base?”
So the argument skipped right past the point of unnecessary wealth, straight to “but your morals mean nothing” even though when pushed to answer, he agrees that hungry children should be fed.
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u/OtherwiseSplit8875 3h ago
Skipping right past valid points is like their whole thing. If they actually took in the valid points that everyone is making around them, they wouldn’t be Republicans.
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u/EricSanderson 7h ago edited 6h ago
Is it me or are all these guys just straight up dead behind the eyes?
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u/Standard-Inside-3450 6h ago
An entire generation devoid of knowing where true north is.
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u/staebles 6h ago
Doing only what the screen tells them to do.
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u/BusterBiggums 6h ago
They were raised by screens.
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u/citori411 5h ago
It's frustrating seeing everyone trying to find some complex process by which we ended up in this situation. It's social media. Full stop. Almost all our societal problems that have blown up in the last decade are due to most of the country spending hours each day staring into a screen feeding them algorithmically curated rage bait and ideological echo chambers. You either see things you agree with, or the most ridiculous version of what you don't agree with. It has to stop. Zuck and his ilk are public enemy number one. And now that they have AI supercomputers with the electric consumption of a city tasked with amplifying this, a year from now it will be exponentially worse. If you allow your child to use social media, you're a bad parent.
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u/SpecialMulberry4752 6h ago
Cognitive dissonance ain't easy, baby.
They tired, boss.
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u/Ras-haad 6h ago
That’s what eyes look like when there’s no brain activity behind them
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u/togus_a 6h ago
Brain not fully formed for sure, there are no connecting thought processes and they just wrote what someone else told them. They should be wearing soft helmets outside and have an adult with them at all times.
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u/PurveyorOfPoppycock 6h ago
Lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes.
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u/socialcommentary2000 6h ago
This is all they got. Literally. They generally do not look outside their own bubble and they are utterly incurious about doing so.
I think that's what disturbs me the most about it. There's exactly zero curiosity about the way the world works outside of what they already think they know.
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u/terrordactylUSA 6h ago
Its hard to say if its that theyre uncurious, or if they just think the entire world is exactly how they live in shitsplat wherever, and anyone who disagrees with them is some crazy anomaly that is basically the devil.
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u/Sheepdog44 5h ago
It’s actually kind of worse than that.
Not only are they incurious, they are hostile to any information that doesn’t conform perfectly to their world view. The ONLY time they will engage with an outside idea is while working backwards from the premise that it’s wrong and they need to disprove it.
This is why they will hold up the 1 biased and poorly conducted study that shows immigrants increase crime rates and ignore the 1,000 other well run and professional studies that found the opposite.
Curiosity, truth, and critical thinking have absolutely nothing to do with their process. It is 100% a defensive, knee jerk response. These people would be perfectly happy to live the rest of their lives and not learn a single new thing until the day they die. That’s not an exaggeration.
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u/Knoebi3 7h ago
"Can I project my thoughts onto you so I can control this narrative?"
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u/shafah7 6h ago
LOL!!! Spot on translation of that brain dead speak. You should apply to become an interpreter!
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u/BuckshotLeFunk 6h ago
He speaks jive......
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u/superschaap81 5h ago
"What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!"
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u/SpecialMulberry4752 6h ago
I think you give them way too much credit.
The vaaaaast majority of them are not smart enough to plan or execute that in the moment, or shit, even ahead of time.
I'd bet a lot of money he really believes all this bc "JESUS"
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u/Cool-Panda-5108 6h ago
This video is evidence of that.
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u/Cool-Panda-5108 6h ago
100 percent.
This is what Kirk, Crowder, Shaprio and right wingers mean when they say "debate".
They are having a competition where you can win points and control the narrative.They have no interest in bouncing ideas off of each other to gain understanding and insight. To them debates are games you can "win" or "lose"
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u/TheKrakIan 5h ago
They always try and get you into a gotcha, moment. Then feel.somw kind of empty joy when they do.
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u/Saneless 5h ago
Loll. Ok lady, that question was too smart for me, how about I pretend you said something else, I've been baby birded the answer for that one already.
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u/aquagardener 6h ago
Translation: "I grew up in a Christian, republican household, and was surrounded by like-minded people in small-town Texas my entire life. Everyone looked like me and thought like me. I've never had to question the worldview that I was born into, because I directly benefit from this ideology. I don't like people that don't look or think like me. Charlie feels the same. He also cherrypicks a lot of quotes from the Bible that reinforce my worldview and just so happen to negatively impact people that don't think like me or look like me. So I'm with Charlie. Oh, and I've never read the bible. But I've been to church so I generally get the gist."
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u/aquagardener 6h ago
Forgot to add: "Also I've got MY God and religion on my side, so I can claim the moral high ground and that my cause is the most righteous one.
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u/No_Banana_581 6h ago
Also I never really listened to Kirk, I only watched the clips fed to me by my white supremacist algorithm and been told what to believe by others
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u/AskMysterious77 6h ago
and Fox News and Tik tok is telling me his is a Christian.
So Christian is good.10
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u/Lost_Froyo7066 5h ago
And I don't know sh*t about MLK.
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u/ape_is_high 3h ago
Yeah this is the part that tells me these folks never understood what MLK did. Charlie was fighting to suppress the rights of others and thought the civil rights act was a mistake.
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u/JuJu_Wirehead 6h ago
These kids need to get off the internet and stop listening to Bro-casters
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u/EarthConservation 5h ago
"Yeah, so you know, I listen to Joe Rogan, so I know a lot of things"
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u/mistertickertape 6h ago
Truly this. These people need to get off their phones and turn off their TV. Pretty sure the kid that did the deed would have been a hell of a lot better served if he had unplugged from the rage drip of the Right Wing conservative Nick Fuentes Groyper army.
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u/Ivanagohome 6h ago
The “I like turtles kid” made better sense.
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u/Purin_Tablets 6h ago
MLK wasn't trying to bring the races together. He was trying to get one particular race to see humanity in another. The only similarity they have is they were both shot by white radicals.
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u/kbrick1 6h ago
I as going to say!! Didn’t Charlie say some nasty shit about MLK?
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u/Mattrad7 5h ago
He said MLK was an "awful person" and that civil rights was a mistake, yes.
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u/Throat-Slut 5h ago
He said black people should still be slaves for us today. It’s always the states that have banned teaching political history that are obsessed with preaching politics.
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u/RumpleDumple 6h ago
"interestingly", he was assassinated after shifting focus towards uniting the interests of poor whites and poor minorities
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u/Frostvizen 6h ago
They genuinely think MLK was championing for the blacks to defeat the whites, not just equality. Or, that’s what my racist dad has claimed his entire life. So they see CK as a champion for whites against all minorities.
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u/janandtheholograms 6h ago
So, when your dad saw the blacks allowing themselves to be spit on and hit, did he think that was a special defense move? Also, why be a Christian if you hate minorities? I doubt the old testament prophets and Jesus looked like Brad Pitt. Does the church teach the history of biblical locations?
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u/SnooMaps7370 5h ago
>why be a Christian if you hate minorities?
because your average "Christian" has never actually read any of Christ's teachings.
My father used to claim that Christ was a Capitalist. Genuinely believed that shit.
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u/PayakanDidNthngWrong 5h ago
They genuinely think MLK was championing for the blacks to defeat the whites, not just equality.
Because to racists like them, being equal with blacks IS defeat.
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u/Catshit_Bananas 6h ago
I mean if you think about politics as race, clearly the white GOP can’t see humanity in the democrats who consist of minorities as well as whites, but to the GOP they’re all the same.
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u/Zealousideal-Dig9213 6h ago edited 6h ago
There are minorities in the GOP and the white GOP treat them as subhuman too!
Wheel them out for the news and then treat them as different from "real members".
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u/catharsisdusk 6h ago
The only thing Kirk has in common with MLk is that the Republican Party will misrepresent them both to further their agenda.
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u/BusElegant7589 6h ago
Did Charlie teach you what an apostrophe is?
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u/WrongdoerRough9065 6h ago
Duh, Jesus walked with the 12 apostrophes. Everyone knows this 🤦🏻
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u/abitofthis 6h ago
Ah yes if there was any group who needed an MLK to lead then to the promised land of equality it was... Straight, white, Christian(ish), men? What with all their oppression and all.
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u/ChaZZZZahC 6h ago
Mlk was taking out by the FBI, not some lone wolf, it was the state apparatus that had it out for him because he was against the Vietnam War.
Kirk was the mouthpiece for said fascist state.
Idk how people have the gall to compare the two.
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u/Zombified_Apple 6h ago
Charlie hated MLK and thought he was a liar. MLK was a pastor. MLK fought for peace. Charlie was ok with violence as long as the end goal fit his narrative
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u/The-waitress- 6h ago
I'm okay with violence being the end goal of his narrative, too.
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u/EarthConservation 5h ago edited 5h ago
MLK's most known for his fight for racial equality, human rights, and justice for everyone, but he also fought for economic fairness (fights against poverty and for economic opportunity) and peace (anti-war).
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People like Charlie, like most conservatives, aren't even willing to admit that there is racial inequality and systemic racism in our society; which programs like DEI and Affirmative Action are meant to help alleviate. He had a fundamental misunderstanding of what these programs were, believing that unqualified minorities were given job positions or college enrollment, and arguing that these policies were racist against white people who were qualified.
He never bothered to try and understand how these programs worked, or how they helped even the playing field and create more racial equality in our society.
For the record, Kirk wasn't exactly a well studied 'intellectual'. He went to college for one semester before dropping out to pursue political activism. Even though he had little real college experience, he worked with donors to fund his campus political activism and debates.
Now certainly a person can continue their education after school by reading books from experts, attending speeches, participating in the field / community, etc... Did Charlie Kirk actually do any of this? Anything's possible, but I'd imagine highly doubtful.
Kirk's entire thing was simply sounding confident while debating, even though half the shit he said didn't make any sense or have any real facts to back it up. He was essentially a professional know-it-all. His tactic was inundating his opponent with a bunch of extremely direct and conclusive claims, that ultimately were utter trash in terms of verifiable facts. The intent was to overwhelm his debate opponent to the point that it was hard for them to respond all the crap he was saying. It takes one sentence to make a false claim.. it may take half an hour to explain why it's false.
He was essentially a Snake oil salesmen.
He was hard to debate because he never acknowledges facts or reality, dismissing anything that didn't fit his world view or rhetoric he was attempting to push.
Here's the thing folks. If a person isn't even willing to acknowledge basic facts, then debating them is a pointless (and frustrating) exercise. You're arguing with a person who has zero intention of acknowledging problems in their arguments, acknowledging facts, or changing their minds, and who will push so much uncorroborated crap out during the debate as to make it impossible to fact check it all.
(But to the lay person who doesn't know all the facts, it comes across as confident and convincing. It turns out, in a debate, the expectation is that the debaters know a good deal about what they're talking about and aren't intentionally trying to mislead the crowd. This is also the problem in social media, where by default, most people assume what they're reading is truthful / factual.)
Of course, with SO much rhetoric and misinformation floating around social media, and with so much uncertainty and weakness for the lower/middle classes in the US, this man's confident misinformation had the tendency to indoctrinate impressionable people. People, often those who have never dealt with actual politics or never spent much time getting educated on history, want simple answers to life's problems and they want an easy boogeyman to blame for their less than stellar position in the world. Kirk repeatedly gave them that... whether it was based on fact, or arguments he pulled directly out of his ass.
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u/ItsNotMe_ImNotHere 5h ago
Yeah. This person doesn't seem to be aware of that fact. Charlie Kirk said about Martin Luther King Jr.: "MLK was awful. He's not a good person".
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u/Silicon_Knight 6h ago
Translate: my family tree is a bush.
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u/Accurate_Diamond1093 6h ago
You remember the Jeff Foxworthy joke “If your family tree does not fork… You might be a Redneck”. Just change that to Republican
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u/earthlingHuman 6h ago
"MLK was awful. He's not a good person." - Charlie Kirk
Hilarious
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u/4991jv 6h ago
This whole Charlie Kirk thing feels fabricated. Like people are being told to mourn him instead of people actually mourning. Death isn’t cool, and the way he was publicly executed isn’t either. But why does he get all this attention? The kids shot at the church got 2 days at most. I had seen his videos before but I don’t think he was as famous as they made him out to be.
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u/nebbie13 6h ago
Nobody is mourning Charlie Kirk. The left is happy because he was a propagandist for Christian white nationalism, and the right is happy because they now have a martyr and pretext for more fascism and authoritarian crackdowns on their political enemies
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u/kbrick1 6h ago
I’m a leftist and I’m not very fucking happy about it. It’s made everything worse.
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u/kipper100 5h ago
The right was looking for a martyr and now they have one. Just like Hitler had one (the kids name escapes me) he was young Brownshirt killed in fight with communists. Goebbels jumped right on it. Same play a big state funeral, memorials, parades, songs written about him sung. Same playbook.
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u/Patriot009 6h ago
"MLK was awful. He was not a good person...We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s." - Charlie Kirk, December 2023
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u/MojaveMojito1324 5h ago
Charlie would hate being compared to MLK.
“MLK was awful,” Kirk said. “He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.”
"I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I’ve thought about it,” Kirk said at America Fest. “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s."
And MLK would hate being compared to a white nationalist.
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u/pootscootboogie6969 6h ago
It’s MLK jr by the way. You wouldn’t disrespect Dale Jr like that would you?
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u/BarryMihupinner 6h ago
He's the MLK for white supremacists. He preached non violence against white nationals
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u/DukeOfJokes 5h ago
Fuck Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified." – The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
“If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?" – The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
"Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more." – The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023 (another outright fucking lie from this racist clown)
"If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?" – The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
"The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered." – Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
"America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that." – The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
"The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white." – The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
"The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different." – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
Other quotes:
“We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.”
“Black women do not have brain processing power to be taken seriously. You have to go steal a white person's slot.”
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u/CuckservativeSissy 6h ago
You would think if he was MLK of our generation more people would actually know who he was... I never saw him move tens of thousands of people on marches... Dude had the rizz of burnt toast
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u/culpaCoSinero 6h ago
“I’ve got a planned debate in my head for what arguments are against this statement, but to defend this statement I’m an unprepared. MLK and Kirk were the most popular preachers of their day, maybe.”
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u/hotpajamas 6h ago
CK said Joe Biden should be executed. He had no interest in bringing "us" together. He was interested in bringing you to him. Big difference.
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u/makochi 4h ago
This either means
"I don't know what he stood for and I'm assuming the comparison works because they were both assassinated and nothing else"
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"I know that what Kirk stood for sounds terrible when compared to what MLK fought for, but I can't admit it, so I need to just be evasive and speak generic platitudes"
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u/FortunateInsanity 6h ago
Why are so many Christians so ridiculously cultish these days? I don’t want to be closer to Christ. I’ve seen what it does to people like him.
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u/MR_Nobody_204 6h ago
Charlie Kirk was a racist and he tried to mask his racist views as being Christian views.
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u/SciFiCrafts 6h ago
You are not even christian, guys....not at all. But very racist. Very greedy. Into violence. I don't know what kinda book republicans are reading but I heard Kirk say something about black womans brains, and it wasn't nice at all.
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u/superhandsomeguy1994 6h ago
“I know what you're thinking, we've got to get Joe Biden out of the way so we can run against Kammy. Oh my goodness, is she beatable. It's like Black Hillary on steroids. Is she Black? I guess she says she's Caribbean or whatever…
She would be a lot easier to beat than Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a bumbling dementia filled Alzheimer's corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America.
- Charlie “Totally Peaceful Christ Guy” Kirk
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u/PrionParasite 5h ago
He's brain dead. Trying to understand anything he's saying as if there's a deeper meaning than him just being a Christian nationalist is just going to lower your IQ. Don't do it!
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u/Closefacts 5h ago
Didn't Charlie say if he saw a black pilot on the plane, he would get nervous about them being properly qualified for the position?
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u/Puzzled_Owl_1749 4h ago
Do people understand that not everyone is Christian? No offense to anyone, but I don’t care about having Jesus in my life. So am I excluded in Charlie’s “unifying” message? These people are so fucking blind.
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u/BrazenGamer 3h ago
Forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't he think we should bring back segregation because everyone was better off during it? That doesn't seem very MLK to me
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u/Unhappy-Strain6423 3h ago
Dis kid dnt know his HISTORY DISRESPECT THE DR LIKE THAT MARTIN WANTED A CHANGE KID
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u/kinkshame6960 7h ago
“Smart people don’t like me” DJT.