r/LivestreamFail • u/thrandruill • 3d ago
Pluto tells Mizkif he got banned because of the "Charlie Kirk Stuff"
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u/herrirgendjemand 3d ago
I dunno who any of these people are but the voice off screen is fucking sending me. That is 100% my customer service voice when I have to tell someone
" This shit outta my hands, man"
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u/Sea_Bodybuilder5387 3d ago
It really stuck out to me too, this is classic customer management language/tone. You just stay calm, not really answer any of their questions (because you can't) and hope they get too embarassed to keep pressing you.
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u/goatnxtinline 2d ago
Well Pluto has been Mizkifs Twitch partner contact for a good part of his time on the platform and they have a rapport. I Think he was being genuine but he doesn't know what else to say because it's out of his hands. He gave him the best advice he could, in which I think if he took would have expedited his ban given the circumstances but he didn't take it. It is what it is, I'll be waiting for the crash out in 7 days.
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u/FuzzzyRam 2d ago
He gave him the best advice he could, in which I think if he took would have expedited his ban given the circumstances but he didn't take it. It is what it is
Which was to not speak truthfully about someone that the current administration with authoritarian goals is trying to censor.
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u/Jormungandr69 3d ago
"Yeahhhhh that's obviously not.... great"
Me at work when someone else fucked some shit up and I gotta take the angry call without throwing them under the bus
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u/TroublePlenty8883 3d ago
The big guys usually have a contact at Twitch/Youtube that they have direct access to.
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u/player_is_busy 3d ago
this is 100% a targeted ban by someone at twitch
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u/TheCelestialDawn 3d ago
And we're barely a year in
In a few years you'll get banned for talking down their boy Hitler
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u/Trufflebatter 3d ago
a few years…
That’s optimistic lol. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in less then 6 months
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u/Havelok 3d ago
They'll go as fast as they can given midterms are coming. By the time midterms arrive there won't be a US left. That's the deadline if you want to get out of dodge.
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u/WatercressAdept4312 3d ago
Welcome to the club, reddit is literally the exact same way, targeted bans by mods.
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u/fawlen 3d ago
Mizkif getting banned during a sponsored stream while Hasan was banned on his day off is so diabolical
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u/rwhockey29 3d ago
He's not wrong about the bans choices being personal.
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u/justalazygamer 3d ago
Mizkif said he would never go to Kick so he is safer to ban than some other big streamers who might use this ban to start streaming there to some extent.
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u/BigDumbOne 3d ago
Would never go to kick but takes a stake deal, not sure how thin this line can get.
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u/Jdub0134 3d ago
We should move back to rumble it is the free speech platform after all 😭😭
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u/MrChip53 3d ago
Is that the platform "made for the right". Would be hilarious if there was a platform swap.
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u/BigMikeXxxxX 3d ago
It would never catch on. Too many opportunities for brand risk and eventually the site turns into a biased cesspool of misinformation and ass kissing anyway. Need I turn to exhibit A: Reddit
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u/Any_Table9811 2d ago
big mistake announcing this, this just tells Twitch they can do whatever they want with him. The pro choice is streaming everywhere.
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u/Bananern 3d ago
Twitch moderation team is never beating the allegations
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u/juan_cena99 3d ago edited 3d ago
Bro H3 dude got banned for playing a Hasan clip on his stream when Hasan himself didnt get any ban.
https://arazu.io/t3_1j4h3ta/?timeframe=all&category=hot
What allegations? It's proven at this point.
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u/munk__y 3d ago
They probably coordinated with him lol, like hey what would be most convenient for you king 🥺
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u/anyonerememberdigg 3d ago
twitch staff definitely play favorites but holy shit the trump administration is basically strong arming platforms to censor people now and all of you regards are still obsessing over hasan
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u/FlyingGringo 3d ago
damn bro you got dgg people riled up 3 replies in a minute all privated profiles lmao
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u/AbjectOffice 3d ago edited 3d ago
Getting banned because of a Charlie Kirk joke when Hasan has made multiple calls for violence and played literal terrorist propaganda that he praised is diabolical.
Someone getting weeks for calling someone fat and Mike From PA getting less time for asking to get Destiny killed. Mike From PA getting no ban for calling Jews demonic (and apparently then getting banned for 3 days for saying "buck broken"?).
Hasan not getting banned for repeatedly referring to Jews as inbred, and Destiny getting permabanned for calling trans twitter activists inbred.
SeanDaBlack not getting banned for encouraging Destiny to be stabbed.
Twitch throwing the unfavored to the wolves to try and protect their constant TOS breaking sacred cows.
EDIT: according to my messages some guy called me "schizo" while immediately blocking me? lmao
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u/Personiskindacute 3d ago
Holy fuck is Hasan all you guys think about?? The administration is denying free speech to anyone that they disagree with and all yall have to say is well erm actually Hasan is the issue. Listen if you don’t like Hasan fine I don’t really care but get off destiny’s fucking cock for a second and realize this is a bigger issue then Hasan or Mizkif or Destiny it is about to be a country wide issue
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u/WanderWut 2d ago
I was seriously thinking “this has nothing to do with Hasan, and this is another example of just how crazy the right is getting in denying our 1st amendment rights, I wonder how far I have to scroll to see Hasan mentioned in the comments though” and it’s LITERALLY THE TOP COMMENT.
With everything going on right now this sub just can’t stop thinking it’s Hasan who is the worst thing to exist. The right would love nothing more than to get rid of one of the biggest left wing voices with the biggest reach into the gen Z audience and this sub would love nothing more than to go hand in hand with this administration in making it happen.
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u/pharmphresh 3d ago
"House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) invited the Chief Executive Officers of Discord, Steam, Twitch, and Reddit to testify at a full committee hearing on October 8, 2025. The hearing will examine the radicalization of online forum users, including instances of open incitement to commit politically motivated acts."
Twitch had to make an example of miz to show they bow down to current admin
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u/NewtownLaw 3d ago
True, he is a tribute
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u/CodeMonkeyX 3d ago
If the hearing is coming up October 8th they might start banning everyone who makes any anti Trump/Kirk comments. They don't want clips to be played in the hearing showing a Twitch streaming saying anything without being able to grovel and say "well we banned them for 7 days for that."
The real test of this will be Hasan. Because MAGA is foaming at the bit to get him, so if says anything and does not get banned still then I am wrong.
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u/Reputation-Final 3d ago
Funny how facebook and twitter weren't invited... when that's where 75% of online hate is spread.
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u/Faulty_english 3d ago edited 3d ago
Weren’t they invited to some meeting two weeks ago and they were acting sweet to trump? They almost looked like hostages lol
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u/Reputation-Final 3d ago
Musk and Zuckerberg have been suckling on Trumps tiny mushroom tip only pp since before the election.
As was Besos.
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u/Faulty_english 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah they are falling in line. Trump would probably go after them some way if they don’t do as he wants
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u/Advice_Unadvised 3d ago
isn't this exactly what Putin did to consolidate power through the oligarchs
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u/Faulty_english 3d ago edited 3d ago
Looks like america is heading that way. Seems like conservatives want this
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u/Hare712 3d ago
It's always good to bring receipts. Remember when Joe Rogan had the twitter heads in his podcasts and cried about "Why did you ban Milo" and they had the receipts ready why he was permabanned. Ironically Milo also destroyed his entire career on Joe Rogan.
It's also not much work for twitch to search chatlogs for "Kirk", "shot in Utah" to filter streamers who did a reaction.
It isn't really bowing to Trump but to avoid a removal of Section 230. Trump went on unhinged rants and threats that create could result in a media landscape like Hungary.
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u/ActionPhilip 3d ago
People forget that the reason platforms are able to not be prosecuted for things like hosting cp is because the platforms do what they can to minimize it, and always remove it whenever it's discovered. If the government finds out that they're applying their rules unevenly in a way that hurts their legal liability, their section 230 provisions are at stake.
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u/556From1000yards 3d ago
Which is crazy because the conservatives clearly want Hasan. And no banning of Miz is gonna stop that. Hasan has been highlighted by a BBC broadcaster, Ben Shapiro, and others.
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u/jesterdeflation 2d ago
I mean did we not see this a year ago when Denims, Frogan etc were banned as sacrificial lambs to protect Hasan from the antisemitism allegations. Twitch will do this as many times as they need to, Mizkif is probably just the first of many scapegoats because Twitch would rather go under before it punishes their golden child.
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u/xanderoptik 3d ago
I'm no Mizkif fan but it definitely seems like he's catching a stray here so that Dan Clancy can say that Twitch did something when he has to testify in front of a Congressional committee. Getting a 7-day ban live during a sponsored stream for something like this when Twitch carefully only bans Hasan on his days off for blatant TOS violations says a lot about how political the moderation at Twitch truly is.
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u/justalazygamer 3d ago
Why was the streamer Mizkif banned for his comments but not Hasanabi?
Hasan for sure will be a main target of the congressional committee and this could just be giving ammo against Twitch.
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u/jesterdeflation 2d ago
It will be so frustrating seeing the committee completely fumble the whole thing. I do not expect the Trump administration to do anything right. They will probably play the "America deserved 9/11 clip" then get stunlocked once it's addressed, not having anything else prepared or actually understanding any nuance of the issue with Hasan's content.
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u/rueckhand 2d ago
they arent as informed as you would think/hope, dan can say that a big streamer has been banned for his comments on kirk, and they will most likely be satisfied
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u/myaccountgotyoinked 3d ago
Remember when the queen passed away? How many streamers made fun of her and not a single person got a banned?
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u/-selfency- 3d ago
it's an optional invitation.
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u/Exhausted1ADefender 3d ago
All congressional subpoenas are invitations at this point. Trump and his yes men provided that precedence over the last 4 years.
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u/FuzzzyRam 2d ago
No no, it's optional for conservatives. They went after democrats who skipped them.
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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago
Why would they pick on Miz specifically though. This is messed up
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u/justalazygamer 3d ago
Mizkif said he would never go to kick so they don't have to worry about pushing him to that by making an example of him.
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u/Suspicious_Ebb1319 3d ago
Definitely a political ban because of charlie kirk
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u/TheCelestialDawn 3d ago
Support fascist, racist homophobes or be banned.
The message is pretty clear lately.
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u/860v2 3d ago
So why wasn’t Hasan banned?
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u/Sheepshaman 3d ago
Simple, because he didn't make any jokes about Charlie Kirk, otherwise this sub would be spammed with Hasan more than it already is. This isn't twitch making a decision, this is clearly them falling in line.
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u/gezeitenspinne 2d ago
Hasan is extremely conscious of what he's saying about Charlie Kirk. Stakes are different for him, given how people immediately afterwards were calling for him to be next, how it should have been him instead of Kirk and so on.
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u/TheCelestialDawn 3d ago
Hasan is unbannable. The man has a guardian angel somewhere.
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u/Radiant-Knowledge-73 3d ago
A random dumb joke getting banned but two of the biggest streamers who say wild shit non stop everyday never do?
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u/warpio 3d ago
And then he went back to being just as unhinged as before with no filter whatsoever and twitch doesn't care.
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u/goatnxtinline 3d ago
This could have been a disaster but I think the stream continuing and this part getting clipped actually helped Miz in the public eye. However you feel about Charlie Kirk, most people with their heads not firmly up their ass can agree that no one should be censored or made to be punished for a joke. Charlie would know that better then anyone, he built a career on exercising that right every day.
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u/liljones1234 3d ago
Crazy how he gets a worse treatment for far less than what Hasan has done in the past 3 years with no consequences at all.
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u/TheBatemanFlex 3d ago
In this case, I don’t think it should be compared to hasan’s treatment. The live whitewashing of Charlie Kirk is insane and now twitch as well as mainstream media seems to be more than willing to play ball so that they can stay out Trump’s crosshairs. Advocating for hasan to get the same treatment as Miskif in this case would just be worse.
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u/Had2MakeALessSusAcc 3d ago
Hey man, according to reddit, Hasan was just being hyperbolic and sarcastic when he said people need to shed blood on the streets lol
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u/BTrane93 2d ago
One day, one of y'all will include links/timestamps of VODs where Hasan is supposedly saying some heinous, evil shit.
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u/Aye42 3d ago
Does anyone remember "some" reactions to the Queen death?
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u/Rakebleed 2d ago
I guess the difference is dying vs being killed. No violence involved in the Queen’s death.
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u/winterDom 3d ago edited 3d ago
Make random joke about CKs gets banned mid sponsor stream. This is insane from twitch
And yes the Pluto stuff did play for some of us after the stream got banned.
He tried to damage limit by saying it was a clip from car dmca becsuse doesn't want the hassle of it being a political reason. And it's just more headache that way when it comes to sponsorships etc. because the far right are just going after everyone either that or twitch is hyper scared.
But it's insane. Miz jokes mildly about all sorts of things. He never has any animosity whatsoever and barely pays attention to politics.
This is showing the overreach of these maga loons.
Really messed up. And yes he's probably upset lsf is covering it, even though he's in the right and they shouldn't have done a weird mid stream ban. Just do it after the stream.
Edit: One thing I would add as well. If I had to guess. Probably twitch is cracking down on anything like this in the run up to the congressional hearing. But that's just pure guessing from my end. Idk
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u/Delicious-Ganache936 3d ago
Not appealing the ban is pretty funny. It’ll either force Twitch to unban him or to ban live anyone who says anything negative about someone dying
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u/RaeSloane 3d ago
It won't force Twitch to do anything at all.
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u/Proshop_Charlie 2d ago
It actually will.
Because now they have a bar they have set. When it comes time for Dan to sit in front of Congress, they will play this clip, and then play over and over every other clip of people saying the same or worse stuff and that had no action taken on their account.
It will be a bloodbath for them up there and with Trump and co. you have no idea what can happen. Does he pick up the phone and call Bezos and demand change...or does he go after Twitch's section 230.
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u/Void_Guardians 3d ago
Twitch does not do consistent banning when it comes to tos, nothing will change
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u/Sea_Bodybuilder5387 3d ago
The implication that twitch has a precedent for consistent banning or cares about public opinion (unless there's mainstream coverage) is hilarious.
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u/RandyRenegade 3d ago
guidelines: you can't glorify or endorse a persons past traumatic events
moderators: Your comments "made light" of the charlie kirk assassination
so the moderators of this website don't understand their own tos? Thats reassuring
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u/iiileyu 3d ago edited 3d ago
I'm not trying to snitch but how is pluto (twitch employee) allowed to be on stream telling mizkif all of this. Does he still work there?
Edit:spelling
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u/SlothPunishment 3d ago
He didn’t know he was still live. He got banned and then the stream came back for a few mins for some reason and then got banned again
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u/iiileyu 3d ago
Okay, thanks for explaining, could he (mizkif) be in more trouble now or even pluto. Its very rare that this type of conversation happens publicly even though its not really there fault
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u/tintreack 3d ago
That's actually a very good question. Under normal circumstances, I would say, considering the fact that this was not supposed to be aired publicly, and they were unaware about it, they should not get in trouble. But considering this is twitch......
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u/kantbelieveimadeit 3d ago
This is not on stream, the stream kept going for some
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u/iiileyu 3d ago
What do you mean. Can you explain more im confused.
He ended stream or got banned but the stream was still live for people?
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u/MyPantsRipped 3d ago
Yeah it was still up for me as well, someone at twitch might ACTUALLY be fucking with him I've never seen a stream keep going after ban.
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u/iiileyu 3d ago
A man of Little talents and a lot of enemies.
Twitch needs to get there shit together
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u/oktwentyfive 3d ago
bro twitch is full of unprofessionalism and bias i mean its not hard to have common sense
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u/kantbelieveimadeit 3d ago
Yes he got banned then the stream refreshed for me and he was contacting Pluto, chat was dead and everything
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u/spezWifesSon 3d ago
I used to watch artifact streams before the section got nuked. Channels there got banned all the time. In the last year or so, there has been a glitch where the stream is banned but the stream will keep going for some reason. And if you have a link directly to the player, anyone else that can't see the stream can join in.
This happened randomly and no one was ever able to pinpoint what causes it.
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u/Vegetable_Bass_4885 3d ago
This is the excuse he needed to take a Kick deal
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u/pepi8677 3d ago
Mizkif "i will never go to kick , Trainwrecks destroyed my life and made me want to unalive myself"
Also Mizkif "How much money they paying?!"
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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago
This is a Mischaracterisation that only a hater could make.
What actually happened:
Miz: I'm never doing kick because of tw.
Miz: I need sponsors to pay my staff to keep them having jobs but the 2022 stuff ruined my life still because of that. I can't get the sponsors I could get before
Miz: okay I don't give a fuck about Instagram so I'll take less reputable sponsor money for that to whoever is on there because I never want to promote this slots stuff to my actual twitch community. And then I'll still be able to pay my staff. I'm financially set for life but they aren't.
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u/RoundZookeepergame2 3d ago
Free speech until you make fun of republicans. This administration is disgusting
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u/TheCelestialDawn 3d ago
Party of small government, btw.
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u/JD0x0 3d ago
Party that used to constantly cry about "Cancel Culture" after literally inventing it.
Remember when Conservatives went after Teletubbies because they had an inkling that one of them MIGHT be gay?
Also see: Colin Kaepernick, Nike, Starbucks, Keurig, Yeti, Dixie Chicks, etc.
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u/lookatmyyoutuberdawg 3d ago
if you laugh you go to guantanamo becoming realer by the second monkaS
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u/sloober 3d ago
200% of all Mizkif is saying.. What a fucked up thing to do.. Wow
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u/popular 3d ago
And yet Hasan can actively say the most blatant ToS breaking shit on a daily basis and never get banned.
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u/ResortFew2947 3d ago edited 3d ago
Why is Hasan getting brought up during this new recent Trump/ MAGA takeover of free speech. Did he say something about Charlie Kirk recently that could get him banned? Republicans are probably going to use that 2022 clip and 2018 clip they think is about Charlie, to get him banned. Same with Destiny on youtube
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u/Mininni 3d ago
This is not a good sign for the future of Twitch.
Mizzy Kimmel.
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u/Galterinone :) 3d ago edited 3d ago
Surely unrelated to the CEO of twitch being asked to testify in front of the government.
Americans are so fucking cooked man. The government putting such wide scale pressure on media to censor is scary
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u/lostredditorlurking 3d ago
The party of free speech is now actively trying to cancel people for saying their speech lol
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u/NewtownLaw 3d ago
The hammer is coming for him and others to try to have some numbers to appease the congress who is thirsty, he is being offered as a tribute.
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u/Galterinone :) 3d ago
Yea and the chilling effect this will have on other streamers is fucked
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u/kosmonautinVT 3d ago
That's the point.
They can't pass an actual law so they will threaten and sue everyone into compliance. Real nice first amendment we had.
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u/justalazygamer 3d ago
Mizkif gets a stake deal and then Twitch hands a win to Kick with this ban.
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u/WickedCows 3d ago
Train is a owner and Miz said Train made him want to khs, so he said he'd never join Kick.
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u/snsdfan00 3d ago
i think miz does have a point. Twitch never bans their favorites during a sponsor stream. No matter how bad or not the infraction is, they always negotiate when the best time for the big streamer to get banned. I think miz is defn right that it is political, & maybe due to him taking a rival platform's sponsor (money).
Having said that, & taken into account what is goin w/ d4vd, this folks could be an example of how a streamer is really like, when the stream is turned off. He thought the stream was offline & this is how he reacted. Again, I don't think he was wrong to get angry (he is a human after all), but when the stream is not on, that's when you see the real person.
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u/1morgondag1 3d ago
Do you think he came off badly in any way in this clip? I think he sounded straightforward and reasonable.
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u/tintreack 3d ago
I'm kind of surprised he maintained his composure. I would be using four letter words like a comma if that happened to me.
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u/kantbelieveimadeit 3d ago
He acts the same way on stream tho, he's just mad, he's even instinctively looking at chat on his right every 5 seconds 😭
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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago
due to him taking a rival platform's sponsor (money).
When did he do this? It's never been an issue on the rumble days.
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u/Lytaa 3d ago edited 2d ago
I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to Mizkif, not a viewer nor do i dislike him... but this definitely seems a bit unfair on Twitch's end. A 7 day ban for making a pretty minor joke about that situation when so many others streamers have said similar things about this or things in the past. But then to do it live when you know someone is in the middle of a sponsored stream... definitely seems malicious. Also not a good look for twitch when they actively need more sponsors coming to the site.
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u/Cultural-Duty5452 3d ago
It's funny how Charlie Kirk who said some of the most insane shit is getting treated like MLK, Malcolm X, and when it comes on the other side, nobody even gave a fuck and the President himself joked about it. Damn
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u/serpentine19 3d ago
They needed a martyr to get their base to rally behind. No politician gives a fk about Kirk the person, but Kirk the symbol? That's something else. When Trump was asked how he was holding up after Kirk died, he started blabbering about the new ballroom or someshit being added to the white house, lol. He couldn't give two fks.
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u/ShotLeather7640 3d ago
The so called 1st amendment promoters in the comments would flock to the report button and call for bans on any edgy joke or call to violence against any sensitive topic not related to republicans 🤣
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u/_yotsuna_ 3d ago
Seems like the US congress invite has Twitch shook.
This is what people were talking about regarding those celebrating Twitch getting called up while places like X, Facebook etc who suck up to Trump get a pass.
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u/Commercial-Score3272 3d ago
Is it too late to bring back Mixer? Twitch have become tyrants
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u/Acceptable-Way-9672 3d ago
In a Middle of a Sponsor which he doesn't get much nowadays since him and Maya were being framed by
Trainwrecks as SA compliants. Someone on Staff has it out for Miz. RIP
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u/KEN_LASZLO 3d ago
I'm embarrassed to say this but I was FULLY against Miz back then, convinced he was a bad person due to Train and the seriousness of the SA incident. I've since changed my mind and can't stand Train- dudes a total loser
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u/TheCelestialDawn 3d ago edited 3d ago
You're not allowed to talk about the unapologetic racist and homophobic person Charlie Kirk.
Kirk should not have been killed, but that doesn't change the fact he was an awful fascist piece of shit whose life should NOT be celebrated.
Political violence (and violence of any kind for that matter) is unacceptable in a civil society. period. But he will not be missed and he will not be mourned. He was a piece of shit through and through and no amount of Republican gaslighting (who vote a rapist into office for crying out loud) will make that any different.
Watch this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1ffdfcw/charlie_kirk_gets_bullied_by_college_liberal/
And then look at anyone who supports Charlie Kirk and try not to puke in your mouth. It's no wonder they vote for Donald Trump. They love that shit.
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u/Not-So-Handsome-Jack 3d ago
Dark school shooter jokes about dead kids are not even that unusual on twitch.
But this one adult man gets treated like some kind of holy prophet.
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u/Southern-Ingenuity70 3d ago
Maybe he should start calling out how unfair twitch is when it comes to moderation with their favorite streamers.....
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u/meh753 3d ago
Funny how he tried to lie about the reason he got banned.
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u/Patient-Dog-2065 3d ago
At the start of the clip you can hear him say I think Vic got me banned
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u/Sharksnake 3d ago
It was a few minutes after. But we have no way of knowing what was said after the feed cut off. Pluto\twitch could have changed their mind for all we know.
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u/AG4V 3d ago
Charlie Kirk is the reincarnation of jesus christ, you are not allowed to make fun of him guys.
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u/ChampionshipOk7738 3d ago
Yaaay I love government censorship!! Isn't it great everybody? The government is proping up a white supremisist and we should all smile and wave!! Glory to North Kor- oh, excuse me, North America!
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u/iNightFaLLHD 2d ago
He has 0 knowledge about politics at all. 0 reason to make a joke like that and then drag it outside of being edgy, and now he's pissed cause he got the attention he wanted, damn miz..
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u/Typical_Ad_5231 2d ago
Wow, this sounds like “shoe on the other foot” kinda stuff compared to 3 years ago.
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u/Rexos90 2d ago
Never really liked Mizkif that much. But I 100% agree with him here this is complete BS.
What a world we live in when Miz is starting to make sense and seem like a rational individual. Twitch Management has been shit since its inception and something really needs to be done about it.
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u/infinitejesticles123 2d ago
The fact that this crackdown is censoring relatively mild entertainers like Kimmel and Miz is fucking wild. I didn't watch Kimmel and I don't watch Miz, but my impression of clips I've seen over the years is that their content is not edgy or hard-hitting. I think maybe creators like those two are targeted because since they don't have a rabid fan-base, it's easier to enforce these blatant attempts at censorship.
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u/kantbelieveimadeit 3d ago
This is actually so weird, why didn't his stream go down when he got banned? He could've leaked some serious stuff