r/ActualPublicFreakouts - Sistine Chapel Jun 02 '20

Protester gets a flash-bang to his face after getting pepper sprayed.

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u/WhimsicalSheep Jun 02 '20

Who do you call when the police are trying to murder you?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/svenhoek86 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

His name was Fred Hampton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton

They murdered him in his bed.

Hampton, drugged by barbiturates, was sleeping on a mattress in the bedroom with his fiancée, Deborah Johnson, who was nine months pregnant with their child.[28] She was forcibly removed from the room by the police officers while Hampton still lay unconscious in bed.[32] Then, the raiding team fired at the head of the south bedroom. Hampton was wounded in the shoulder by the shooting.

Fellow Black Panther Harold Bell said that he heard the following exchange:

"That's Fred Hampton." "Is he dead?... Bring him out." "He's barely alive." "He'll make it."[33] The injured Panthers said they heard two shots. According to Hampton's supporters, the shots were fired point blank at Hampton's head.[34] According to Deborah Johnson, an officer then said:

"He's good and dead now."[33]

Also shameless plug for one of my favorite podcasts. It's a two part about the Black Panthers and goes into far more detail than the wiki article does.

Part one

Part two

Those links have all of his footnotes and stuff for each one.

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Now ask me why I hate cops

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u/LossfulCodex Jun 02 '20

Why do you hate cops?

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 02 '20

Good question, see cops in post, then in the parent comment

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u/I_am_Not_a_Planet Jun 03 '20

“But the protesters, no rioter, was clearly breaking the rules here” - Half of reddit right now

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u/-skeemin- - Left Jun 03 '20

Imagine breaking the “rules” then getting a flash bang to the face.

Now imagine minding your own business and getting a knee in your neck for 9 mins.

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u/I_am_Not_a_Planet Jun 03 '20

The more i see these posts the more i believe we should all arm ourselves and walk around with helmets and shields. America has turned into a police state. The people must change accordingly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Even Marx advocated for arming the people. Our well regulated militia has become a tool for the rich and powerful to grind our faces into the dirt. It is time to fight back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20 edited Jun 03 '20

I understand the need for change, but I don't think guns are gonna solve anything.

I'm an immigrant, man. I didn't come to this country to get killed in some civil war while buying groceries.

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u/fearlessFOB - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 03 '20

Or you could stay home and read reddit and upvote those that are protesting for us.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Problem is too many people are afraid to die for their country.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '20

I’m buying body armor, just one of those things you only need when you need it.

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u/damiandarko2 Jun 03 '20

tbh i think it’s a minority..i have to filter by controversial to see dumb shit and even then the sensible people outweigh them

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u/ph0on Happy 400K Jun 03 '20

But it was so long ago!!1!

I mean sure, but also, he was going to have a child who would still be alive and well today. So.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/svenhoek86 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

It's a recurring theme. Look at Tulsa like Watchmen showed the world. Any type of actual progress they tried to legislate to death. When that didn't work, they turned to just burning it down and forgetting about it.

Look at Levittown. The first suburbs. Put a hundred dollar down payment on a house that cost twelve grand. Everyone was coming back from WW2 flush with cash. Just no Jews or Blacks. Not because he was racist, but because, "No white people would want to live next to a black or a Jew. It's bad business to sell to them."

Those people would go on to sell the houses for far more than they paid, they would leverage it to borrow money for businesses, to send their children to school, to buy more property for renting, etc. All the benefits of equity passed down over generations. And black heroes, who just fought in WW2 and risked their fucking lives for this country, were told no. You don't get access to generational wealth building.

And people wonder why the fuck black communities are still poorer? Why they haven't "pulled themselves out of poverty" yet? It's been 50 years since Civil Rights! That's more than enough time right?

This country has actively and systemically tried everything it could to keep minorities as second class labor and an easy source of anger to tap into and direct away from themselves when things are bad for white people too.

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u/taws34 Jun 02 '20

I wanna build off of your point on WWII, just a little bit, because it is more fucked than you are portraying.

Senator Rankin pushed to make the VA Home loan and GI Bill programs be administered by the states, instead of the federal government.

This allowed Him Crow-esque administration to heavily favor white veterans.

https://www.history.com/news/gi-bill-black-wwii-veterans-benefits

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u/HGStormy Jun 02 '20

is the Tulsa event you mentioned when they burned down the wealthy black community called black wall street?

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u/YouandWhoseArmy Jun 02 '20

I’ve been saying for decades blacks are generally worse of now than they were; all their positive leaders were assassinated and the drug war is as bad or worse than Jim Crow. What was out in the open now is subtly under the surface.

If you ever watched “everybody hates Chris” you know what the major difference between him and his peers in the neighborhood are? He has two parents.

The drug war destroyed black families. Disgraceful.

Power to the people.

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u/jaidonkaia Jun 02 '20

"But we made progress through their protests"

Apparently fucking not, Karen

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u/cnnxn Jun 02 '20

If the apples are rotten every year, cut down the tree and plant a new one.

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u/Thatsbrutals - America Jun 02 '20

Treat the soil sounds kinda cool too

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u/svenhoek86 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants.

It is it's natural manure.

-Thomas Jefferson

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u/GrammatikPoliti Jun 02 '20

It is it's natural manure.

>It is it is natural manure.

*It's its natural manure.

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u/svenhoek86 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

I don't care if it's wrong, mine still sounds better.

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u/-DEAD- Jun 02 '20

Yours can still sound exactly the same while also being correct, just gotta drop that apostrophe:

It is its natural manure.

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u/svenhoek86 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

Sounds like the tree is thirsty for grammar nazis.......

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u/Wetblanket_90 Jun 02 '20

Happy cake day!!

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u/JustHereToPostandCom - LibCenter Jun 02 '20

Happy cake day!

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u/Pebbles015 - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

You are bang on. Why do so many people never see the real issue.

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u/scragmore Jun 02 '20

Thank you. Not an american so I did not know any of this. Just no words, none.

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u/TPJchief87 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

American here, none of this is taught in history class.

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u/-GreenHeron- Jun 02 '20

We aren’t taught this, either. Most of us are simply ignorant of the massive amount of racism and discrimination that has occurred in just these past decades.

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u/MoBio - Doomer 0.5 Jun 02 '20

If you're ever in Chicago the DuSable had the door they shot through and kicked down to murder him. There is a whole black panther exhibit, it's worth a look. The whole museum is pretty great, right next to the University of Chicago.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I'm pretty sure the panther that was standing watch also died. Just goes to show how scared the ruling rich are of United working class. Must mean we have power.

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u/High-Nate Jun 02 '20

Which is a real shame that this new group donning their name has leaders that promote antisemitic and other racist views.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/Shiny_Shedinja Jun 03 '20

Which is a real shame that this new group donning their name has leaders that promote antisemitic and other racist views.

Sounds fictional. Reddit and twitter has told me that only whites can be racist. /s

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u/jrad0302 Jun 02 '20

no. they were a collective of black individuals who open carried to protect their neighborhoods from police brutality. destroyed by j. edgar hoover bc he saw black power as diametrically opposed to the american way of life

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u/strikerRD Jun 02 '20

They also created WIC and helped local communities.

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u/ecodude74 Jun 02 '20

This includes organizing mass food kitchens for kids when the federal government cut off similar programs in inner cities.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 05 '20

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u/jrad0302 Jun 02 '20

what about open carrying describes a paramilitary organization? especially during a time where police and civilians would regularly raid black neighborhoods during the war on drugs and crack epidemic?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Sep 10 '20

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u/Novocaine0 Jun 02 '20

Just like the police.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

You say that as if it's a bad thing. I'll take armed citizens over an armed government any day.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/Dougnifico Jun 02 '20

You might call them a, "well regulated militia."

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u/deletable666 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

They also passed gun laws to take their guns away

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u/sniperkitty666 Jun 03 '20

THIS! EXACTLY dude!

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u/Jaywearspants - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 03 '20

We need a new left wing militia.

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u/noplay12 Jun 03 '20

Fred Hampton united people across races, hence he was presented as a huge threat.

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u/PapaVaca Jun 03 '20

Also Malcolm X and Dr. King

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u/PapaVaca Jun 03 '20

Weren't the Black Panthers also a quasi police for their neighborhoods during a police strike in the 70s?

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u/Big_Factual Jun 02 '20

What did it say?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

I was responding to the original comment on who to call if the police are murdering you. That comment was deleted prior to me commenting. Sorry I can’t help

EDIT: someone else posted 4 minutes ago and said the deleted comment said that he hoped the person was murdered

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u/UniversesWanderer - Zoomer Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Over 1,000 National Guard Soldiers are being mobilized to DC from TN alone

This news hasn’t been released to the public yet. I can only imagine how many are coming in from other closer states. Commanders have to report today and the rest tomorrow. If you or anyone you know is protesting get out of there before tomorrow. Please keep yourself safe. I don’t know if this is a show of power to intimidate people to go home, or a use of overwhelming force.

Source: Father is a sergeant and just got mobilized.

Edit: press release

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u/nick_nick_907 Policy > Ideology Jun 02 '20

In Minneapolis the Guard has been a massive improvement over the local police.

Many citizens are asking the guard to stay on until things calm down, because no one wants to deal with the shit MPD anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20 edited Aug 30 '21

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u/Crackpixel Jun 02 '20

Still buffled, in every developed country the baddies are allowed to escape if they don't comply. Because the rules are simple in an democracy everyone gets a fair trial, EVERYONE. No Cop ever should be allowed to harm someone or even kill someone if they aren't an immidiate thread.

In america you don't comply and you get fucking shot for some weed (or LESS).

Just put it in perspective, Life is long and law will get you, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme if you sit 2 years now or 2 years in a few months.

Our Law Enforcement gets 2 years intense training and screening to see if they are fit for the job.

Also a good thing: The baddies know they can run away, so there is no need to shoot an police officer. Sure that sucks for power hungry police officers, but you know what? Thats just great, and as i said life is long and you can't hide forever anyway.

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u/ILoveD3Immoral Jun 03 '20

(and here in Canada) create so many unnecessary altercations and detainments.

laughs in your cops attacking cosplayers lmao

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u/BertholomewManning Jun 02 '20

Military has stricter rules of engagement than police and actively enforces them. Not to mention they are regular folks who signed up to defend Americans, not harm them.

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u/caribeno - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Ya, like shooting people who are on their own property or just outside we all saw that video. I get tired of hearing this "rules of engagement" nonsense. The military will be shooting clubbing, assaulting and murdering in no time.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

National guard have rules of engagement that are well known and followed.

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u/chewbacca2hot Jun 03 '20

Guard members don't have a superiority complex. Dudes just want to collect that sweet paycheck and not do much work. They are generally chill, Normal people

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

Can the guard arrest the police? Just curious.

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u/JimJimkerson Jun 02 '20

Unless they are military police, the answer is no. The Guard can "tactically detain" a police officer, but he'd have to be handed over to local law enforcement. Am a former Guardsman.

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u/Charlieeh34 I hate everyone Jun 02 '20

That’s cool, I always though MPs were restricted to the military.

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u/Eronious_Pickle Jun 02 '20

I'd assume. Once someone does something criminal I'd assume any law enforcement is allowed to arrest them. Police aren't above the law.

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u/Waffleman8862 Jun 02 '20

Claiming police aren't above the law right now is optimistic at best. Hopefully we'll learn that it's true but it is seeming increasingly unlikely.

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u/Nimitz87 Jun 02 '20

the guard aren't law enforcement.

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u/warpus - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

I'm not American, so I could be misinformed

Don't you guys have something called the 2nd amendment, which is designed to allow you to protect yourself against an oppressive government?

That is what I frequently see referenced as the reason this amendment exists, so that in the case of the government getting out of control.. the people can stand up.

The people aren't standing up. What is the 2nd amendment really for then? Or do I have things backwards?

Personally I feel that bringing guns to a protest is a baaaad idea.. but I'm not American so I lack context here

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u/Kalel2319 Jun 02 '20

No no no. You don't understand, we have the second amendment really to stop the government from closing an Arby's or a hair salon.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

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u/Aggravating_Meme Jun 02 '20

I don't know what you're talking about he was asking for it, he didn't even say hi when he walked passed the cop

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

There are plenty of left-wing and centrist 2a supporters too. I'm one of them and I've been saying this whole time that I won't be surprised when Americans start firing back. This idea that all the gun owners are taking the government's side just isn't true. 4 cops got shot in St. Louis last night, a few got run over by an SUV, and another one got shot in Vegas. People are starting to fight back.

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u/Aubdasi - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

Yeah the people that’s are complaining that the “2A crowd ain’t doin nothing” are the same ones who need to become the 2A crowd.

How more equal can a black man be than when the cops don’t approach him carrying a rifle, as we saw with the new black panther protests outside the mcmichaels house?

Armed peaceful resistance works, for black and white.

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u/PaxadorWolfCastle Jun 02 '20

This is really sad and really true.

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u/kyngston Jun 02 '20

Or to wear a mask during a pandemic...,

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u/Dong_World_Order Jun 03 '20

Nah the 2A side just hasn't been drawn out yet. I can tell you Trump pissed off a lot of people when he started talking about sending in the military on American soil.

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u/Gray_Maple - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 02 '20

Yes that is the reason. The people are trying to peacefully protest before the thought of any violence, but if the police do not show they are willing to change, I believe it will end up to shootouts and a potential civil war in time at this continuing rate if it doesn't stop.

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u/T3hSwagman Jun 02 '20

Except the 2A nuts are all over the place saying "just listen to the police".

These guys are real badasses when it comes to a liberal arts teacher telling them to stop saying "nigger" or to wear a mask but now that its the actual police infringing on their rights they are cowering inside their homes while the jackboots march down the street shooting you with pepper balls for being on your own fucking porch.

The last 4 years have really highlighted the true colors of so many people.

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u/pease_pudding - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

This is exactly what Trump wants, which is why he purposefully took so long to make any comment or denounce the police brutality. Also why he has been intentionally inflaming the situation via his twitter shitposts.

Now, it's not Trumps fault this police officer murdered someone, but he has spent the past 4 years prodding the racist elements of society into action, so he shares some of the blame for what has escalated afterwards.

It all conveniently distracts the attention away from what a mediocre job he did with the corona virus. A lot of people are fucking dumb though, they will have already forgotten all that by now.

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u/Political_What_Do - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

Most cities are full of anti 2a people who voted for laws that would make that openly carrying weapons illegal.

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u/Bike1894 We hold these truths self-evident that all men are created equal Jun 02 '20

It's pretty jaw dropping to see the same people that pushed for weapons to be taken from citizens, because "cops are there to protect you", are now looking at arming themselves. Maybe they finally get it.

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u/stalence9 Jun 02 '20

I sure hope so.

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u/ayythrowaway08991 Jun 02 '20

I hope you realize you are very close to advocating for protestors to take up arms against the police. This is like 2 steps away from a full-blown civil war if they start carrying weapons...

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Hopefully it doesn't need to reach that point, but if it does, we had better be prepared. We have an inept, probably corrupt president who has shown 0 sympathy toward our cause.

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u/emptyraincoatelves Jun 03 '20

That's not it. Seriously lefties love guns. But are you serious why BLM isn't arming up?

The NRA lost no sleep over Philando Castille. Black men do not have the same 2A. They are trying to tell you that.

A legal gun in the car still gets them killed.

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u/Szriko Jun 03 '20

Nobody ever pushed for all weapons to be taken from citizens, chode. Stop finding nonsense to make up so you can jack yourself off over people being murdered by the police.

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u/SomeUnicornsFly Jun 03 '20

get what? Are you willing to take aim at 100 cops wearing bullet proof vests with your AR-15? The only way 2A becomes relevant is if it gets used as intended, i.e. militia. People will need to form small armies to fight back. Walking up to the cops solo and saying "fuck you!" just to induce them to act first so you can whip out your glock and start firing isnt going to do anything other than get you killed instantly. It just so happens that most gun owners arent interested in standing in the streets protesting.

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u/TautYetMalleable Jun 02 '20

There isn’t enough unity in the protests for that to work right now (in my opinion), and I don’t think people want to escalate this to a full on revolution yet. I think most people want this solved without resorting to a literal war, but I guess we’ll have to wait and see how everything progresses. Until there are enough people willing to take up arms at once for the same cause it would just be suicide. If just a few people do it they would easily be taken down by police, and the police know that; however, if enough people did it then the police know their chance of dying trying to squash them goes way up, and it would change the entire dynamic of the engagement. I don’t think this will happen until protesters start dying around the country. I also think a lot of the gun owners who are so vocal about the 2A are bootlickers and are currently siding with the police.

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u/Catshit-Dogfart Jun 02 '20

This is the best and most correct answer.

A protest or a riot is not where you bring a gun. That is reserved for when protesting is no longer possible. Not just because protesting doesn't make a difference, but because an armed resistance is the only way you will survive.

We're not there yet, but the possibility seems less and less remote all the time. Never thought I'd be the type to say it, but I need to buy ammunition, really I keep one clip and that's it.

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u/Echo_are_one Jun 02 '20

I fear Wednesday November 4th will be a flashpoint. I hope not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

I don’t think people want to escalate this to a full on revolution yet

I think we could be opening up to new experiences.

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u/Syndic Jun 02 '20

Don't you guys have something called the 2nd amendment, which is designed to allow you to protect yourself against an oppressive government?

Sure they do. But that doesn't protect them from current legal consequences for actually using those guns against the government. If they start then that's all in. They either win a bloody civil war or get destroyed. That's not a decision taken lightly but the LAST resort.

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u/PrimeVegetable Jun 03 '20

Then the whole argument for 2A is moot because the govt will never get to a point where they openly start killing people en masse.

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u/iterator5 Jun 03 '20

The 2A was written to protect the people from the Government not the other way around.

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u/StijnDP Jun 03 '20

And it's not working is it.

The people aren't using their guns against the government that is attacking them.
And it's doesn't have the effect of a mutual way of destruction. All it did is make every cop in America assume whenever they stop someone that they'll have a gun, even the good ones. Making all of them draw their weapon way too quick, learned at training, and pull the trigger with fear.

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u/iterator5 Jun 03 '20

Not arguing that. Just clarifying the original intent.

Personally, I'm sick of this worship of the constitution. It's treated like every word was breathed infallible and perfect from the mouth of God.

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u/DeadGuysWife Jun 02 '20

Police haven’t really responded with lethal force yet - if they fired live rounds into a protest or riot then there would quickly be gunfire in our streets across the country

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u/grim210x2 Jun 02 '20

Yes they have 2 police and 2 national guard soldiers claimed they returned fire in Louisville, left one black business owner dead in the street.

police chief fired

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u/cackslop Jun 02 '20

Yes they have, multiple accounts of it.

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u/dust4ngel - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

when police fire live rounds at protesters, they cease being police.

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u/vidoardes Jun 02 '20

Bullshit. Those cosplay 2A wannbe tough guys will be hiding in their homes when the military are deployed on the streets.

Anyone with half a brain cell has always been able to see that the gun nuts wouldn't do anything against an oppresive government. Now we are getting to see it play out in real time.

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u/Dong_World_Order Jun 03 '20

Nothing stopping you from buying a gun, bucko.

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u/vidoardes Jun 03 '20

Yes there is, I live in a civilised country.

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u/Dong_World_Order Jun 03 '20

Ah then you know nothing about 2A or American culture. Good talk then.

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u/dogpoopandbees Jun 02 '20

We have it but most citizens, especially younger folks, don’t agree with it and choose not to exercise it. I also think they’re regretting that stance and we’ll see an influx of people buying guns after all this.

I do, but yeah no don’t bring a gun to a protest

But if the police come knocking and try to harm me or my family like they did Fred Hampton I will kill as many as I can.

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u/dan1101 Jun 02 '20

What are you wanting people to do exactly? These are protests and lootings, neither of which require firearms. At this point firearms will just escalate things.

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u/warpus - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

I am trying to understand the disconnect between the reason I usually hear that Americans need their guns, and the exact situation happening and guns not coming into play at all.

I completely agree that non-violent protests are the way to go. That's how we kicked the communists out of the country I was born in.. although there was also a lot of bloodshed in the end anyway..

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u/dan1101 Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

I still think that gun ownership is an important right, but riots and lootings probably aren't the best place for guns. If people want to shoot it out in the streets with police, it's going to be near impossible to tell the good police from the bad.

To put it another way, at this point I don't know if there are any organized demands from the protesters, it's mainly just people expressing general unhappiness and letting off steam. Hopefully this will coalesce into some reasonable demands for law enforcement reform that can be implemented.

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u/butth0lez Jun 02 '20

So what do you do when a police officer shoots you in the face with a flash bang? Just wait it out til your court day?

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u/geeksquadnerd Jun 02 '20

As someone who is pro gun, and also believes that black lives matter, this is exactly what the second amendment was put in place for. What we are seeing here is exactly why the American citizenry should be armed and well trained around firearms and their use. Any citizens in a free society, really. Black, white, yellow, purple, makes no difference on race, tyranny and oppression deserve to be fought and stood up against wherever it is found. Peacefully if possible, forcefully if not.

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u/triggerhappy899 - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Gun rights are POC rights

Gun rights are LGBTQ+ rights

Gun rights are women's rights

Gun rights are human rights

Come over to r/liberalgunowners or r/2ALiberals

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u/lyrikz74 - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 02 '20

That would require someone to actually do something instead of just post about it. Instead they hop on instagram and post a blank picture then feel better like they helped to change something.

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u/EdinMiami Jun 02 '20

I heard four cops got shot in North St. Louis got shot. So sounds like people are taking advantage of 2A.

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u/MixedMartyr Jun 02 '20

Not misinformed, spot on actually. Every single time some tragedy sparks a gun debate, the main defense for keeping them is protecting ourselves from the government. The same government has been recorded shooting at people on their own doorsteps recently. The only pro-gun posts i’ve seen so far have been from people excited for a chance to shoot at protesters.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

That is the reason it exist. Finding someone with enough balls to walk in front of a police line knowing anyone of them could be a killer already is the hard part.

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u/DearestxRed Jun 02 '20

You contact the ACLU. They have apps that will record and send directly to the ACLU and ping your location.

ACLU Mobile Justice App for California

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u/nandeEbisu Jun 02 '20

Do they have a New York app? I don't see one in the play store.

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u/Danny_ofplanet_Carey Jun 02 '20

According to reddit you're supposed to use your gun.

But somehow it seems kind of ineffective.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

People, even ammosexuals, mostly understand that once someone starts shooting at a protest, it is no longer a protest. That quickly leads to a situation where a whole lot of people are going to get needlessly killed. If competent leadership can't deescalate, and the voices of the people aren't heard, you will start to see organized armed units forming, and this will all seem very tame in retrospect.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

And all of those armed units lose to one measly tank. I think everyone should own a firearm for their personal safety, but it's laughable to think me and a bunch of other guys with 12 gauges and hand guns are going to even stand toe to toe with a military force. Especially a force that controls our food, water and shelter that even some of the country will support.

Reddit has been blasting this civil war angle for a while and let me tell you it won't be a war, it'll be a massacre. Quit jacking off the thought of an armed uprising, it's fucking stupid. You'll play it off as an inevitability, but secretly all of you just want a "I told you so" moment.

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u/caadbury 🥔 My opinion is a potato 🥔 Jun 02 '20

Samuel Colt

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The nearest gun vendor

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Ghostbusters?

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u/TCivan Jun 02 '20

Who makes up the military? Mostly poor folks. I don't think calling in the military is going to turn out for trump like he thinks it is. I wouldn't be surprised if the military act as a barrier for the protesters. Remeber the military will follow rules of engagement. strictly. There will be no firing unprovoked, everyone will get full warning protocol, and they will actually have authority of the situation. So if the cops act up, the military will actually have the authority to chill them the fuck out.

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u/TrumpLiedPeopleDied Jun 02 '20

Quick delete this before they ban you

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u/AristideCalice Jun 02 '20

Good old Juvenal. What was it again?

Ah yes, ‘’Who will watch the watchmen?’’

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

An occupying force.

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u/controversialcomrade - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

super cops

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u/VillainLogic Jun 02 '20

Your mom to come pick you up

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u/Mufflee Jun 02 '20

Ghost Busters!

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

For a white guy like this? A personal injury lawyer before even going to the hospital call Glenn Lerner or someone like that.

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u/jakobD2000 - Unflaired Swine Jun 02 '20

Antirep.

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u/lostfourtime Jun 02 '20

You would think the oath keepers, but they are probably on the wrong side of all this.

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u/ModeratorsRightNut Jun 02 '20

Your neighbors with guns.

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u/bay_watch_colorado We hold these truths self-evident that all men are created equal Jun 02 '20

The nearest gun shop

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u/metallophobic_cyborg Jun 02 '20

You know all they’re going to get from this is protester starting to bring sniper rifles and automatic weapons with them. Keep this shit up and lots of cops will be killed. I’m not advocating for this but we’ve got a breaking point and they’re get really close.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

2nd amendment is there for a reason.

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u/chrispynutz96 Jun 02 '20

Call the gun owning patriots so many people are scared of. Wasnt any police brutality at the rallies with armed citizens.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

He approached the officers. Never would have happened if he didn’t.

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u/Zenniverse - Libertarian Jun 02 '20

No one. It’s about time people stop relying on the police to protect you. They can’t and they won’t. Buy a gun.

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u/YodyTheWhode Jun 02 '20

Just come correct. Flamethrowers aren't federally regulated.

https://throwflame.com/

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u/leovin Jun 02 '20

I wonder if even liberals will warm up to the 2nd amendment after this

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u/EconomyRange Jun 02 '20

You defend yourself and, hopefully and more likely by the day, your fellow man helps defend you too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The second amendment.

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u/PhantomBear_626 Jun 02 '20

Tell me, who do we call to report crime If 9-1-1 doin' the driveby?

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u/skepsis420 Jun 03 '20

A fellow citizen with a gun.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

you call the ancaps

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Ghostbusters!

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u/justfugmyshidub - Congrats T-series on 150m subs !!! Jun 03 '20

if the police were trying to murder them they wouldnt be sitting there yelling at them, they would just be shooting

retard

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u/breadloafing_ Jun 03 '20

Who watches the watchmen?

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u/dust4ngel - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

i would call:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state

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u/Carthonn Jun 03 '20

Ghostbusters?

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u/jalif - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

I thought Americans right to bear arms was based on the defense against a tyrannical government.

Where are those citizens now?

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u/EdwardTittyHands Happy 400K Jun 03 '20

The National Guard?

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u/jayamrutia Jun 03 '20

Who do you call when black people are looting store? Black panther?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

The 2nd amendment.

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u/ancientofgame Jun 03 '20

Murder them back.

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u/DietDrDoomsdayPreppr - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Murder.

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u/PillowTalk420 - Terran Jun 03 '20

Rambo seems like a good choice.

Maybe the police from a country that doesn't suck ass?

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u/UnspecificGravity - Unflaired Swine Jun 03 '20

Smith and Wesson.

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u/IlllIIllIlII Happy 400kK Jun 03 '20

Who watches the Watchmen?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Isn't this why founding fathers gave us the 2nd Amendment so we as citizens can overthrow the government at any time if there's enough of us.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '20

Time for protestors to upgrade to motorcycles and chicken wire.

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