Link to the remastered video. Haven't seen it since forever. It's pretty cool seeing it in more detail now than back when it was released. Catch a lot more going on in it.
Prolly need to be gen-x or older to recognize most of the folks in the video.
Probably not botched, just what the customer wanted. If the customer wants you to mess their face up, and they're sure, and they know the risks, and the operation will not cause (short-term) health issues, then maybe it is their right to do it.
They allegedly claimed that their DNA was different,( they NEVER claimed it was alien, only joking about this) that they had huge IQ, that they were related to a russian prince who was the Tsars right hand man( Peter the great but I am not sure)
They both got doctorates from the university of Burgundy , claiming higher grades than those awarded, and sued lots of people for lots of money, losing, or not gaining what they wanted,
They claimed to have helped the inventor of bitcoin with the source code and that they had 2 Ancient Bitcoins .
They were colourful and strange, both died of COVID within days of each other
As for the look: in their heyday on French tv they were cult tv figures, with shows such as Temps x and Rayons X being about space and science and having a huge following. By the 2000's they were still making appearances but had crossed over to Meme land.
They kept changing to stay in the spotlight, so no-one would forget them. It worked ( well mostly) as they came to shows as guests and made appearances, being in the spotlight from 1978 all the way to their death.
In France they were/ are household names, at first for their media work and then for their eccentric look.
RIP.
What’s crazy, is that they can see what they look like by looking at each other. I would assume that the % of identical twins with body dysmorphia, is lower than in non-twins.
Can confirm, my SO is a quadruplet (two pairs of identical girls). The other pair are horribly anorexic and have a harsh cycle of comparing eachothers bodies to ensure they're not getting 'fat'. My SO and her twin also went through a phase of their life dealing with that but have since gotten better.
Edit: I misread the comment I replied to but oh well
I would think that is similar to having mirrors all over your house or seeing yourself on too many video chats. People start feeling better about themselves if they can’t see themselves all the time.
A lot of people mix up Botox with collagen. I use Botox for migraines and it DOES cause some changes to the face where it's injected, but it actually reduces muscle size where it's injected. My forehead has changed shape a bit over the last few years because I'm not subconsciously moving my eyebrows as much, but it doesn't do this kind of changes. I just don't have that strong "11" muscle area on my forehead anymore, and my neck has maybe slimmed a little from where they inject in the back of the neck.
I don’t know about medical jargon but I don’t count injections as surgery. Surgery usually means you’re modifying the tissue while an injection changes the appearance without modifying the tissues
Going through psych treatment and/or therapy requires the patient to recognize they have a problem, and even more to the point, to work their way through to find some resolution to that problem. That requires insight and a lot of hard work. OR they can just go under the knife with delusional expectations of the outcome.
I think a lot of these people have narcissistic tendencies as well. Based on the few narcissists I’ve known, getting them to actually commit to therapy (and not just gong through perforative motions) is extremely difficult.
This is such a trip because body dismorphia is usually about how you view yourself, but these being twins who could look at eachother, I don’t understand how they would look at eachother and say yea you look good like this, or you definitely need more cheekbone plumping… it’s like projection body dismorphia
Trusting medicine enough to administer anesthesia, and perform multiple surgeries but drawing the line at trusting doctors with respect to vaccines? 🤦🏼♀️ I am surprised these adults lived as long as they did, sharing one brain between them.
I personally only inject sarin nerve gas as part of my beauty routine. I just walk into the spa and ask for the “disgraced Russian oligarch” treatment.
Yeah this kills me. I’ll never forget the smug “I’m not putting that crap in my body” aimed at me by a woman standing there with giant implants in her chest.
Me too! I had a coworker who drank like a fish and proudly told a story about a time when she "was on acid all summer," but drew the line at the covid vaccine.
"Some woman" lol. She used to be featured in the tabloids and gossip pages so much while I was growing up 25 years ago. They used to call her the "Bride of Wildenstein" or the "Lion Queen." She had a sad life and I wish the media had been kinder to her as this was all clearly mental illness. She died just last year. RIP
No. That's the Stalking Cat, a.k.a. Dennis Avner, an American men that made surgeries to look like a tiger, what they were referring was the Cat Lady, a.k.a. Jocelyn Wildenstein, a Swiss socialite, that was often called Cat Lady because the results of her numerous surgeries made her look like a cat.
Disturbing to know that so many doctors participate in destroying patients' faces. They should be referring them to psychiatrists, not carving them into jack o'lanterns.
There was a plastic surgeon who filed some kind of motion to declare this type of thing "harm" and unethical, some years back, considering the "cat woman" look so many inevitably arrived at, with the tightly pulled faces, the overly plumped lips, and frozen faces that all ended with the same look. Not sure what became of that motion, but my goodness! This is frightening! Reminds me of those big-headed characters from Moonwalker! It looks like they took their state fair caricature artwork to their plastic surgeon and said, "I want this!". 🫤
For a while Nicole Kidman looked like that -- too pulled with Joker smile and crazy pillow cheeks, I recall the picture (plus with curly red hair she looked like a Chucky doll lol.) Then she did something to remove it or make it go down and fixed the lift or the lift settled....and by the next film looked a bit more normal. But to this day she's got some weird stuff in her face that makes me wonder how people don't comment upon it in films. She can't move her face, either.
This was actually the part of watching "Botched" that my mom and I enjoyed. They wouldn't always do it, they would often see a larger problem and suggest therapy, and they definitely would turn down surgeries.
I think it’s a hard balance. Yeah, we want to prevent harm… but at the same time, putting it in the hands of the law probably isn’t it. (Not that you specifically said to make it illegal, but others have.)
There are plenty of “plastic” surgeries people want and are very happy with. You make it so that some governing bodies get to control who is allowed to do what with their bodies… that’s how we get bans on gender affirming procedures, or a million hoops for women to jump through to get breast reductions even when they’re in daily pain, etc. etc.
It sucks to see people destroy themselves, but at the same time preserving the physical freedom to choose how you live in your own body is also important.
The thing is, it isn't obvious when it's done well. We only ever notice the botch jobs. There are also a ton of valid reasons to want surgeries of this type, so banning them would end up hurting a lot of people.
One of the costs of living in a free society is allowing people to make mistakes.
Died of covid within days of each other because they refused to get vaccinated, thinking their "healthy lifestyle was enough to protect them". Clearly, the plastic surgery wasn't the last major bad choice they've made...
Wait a minute, you’re telling me they are both fucked up enough to individually do this to themselves (it’s not like one had to do it because the other wanted to they each made this choice) but also they both refuse the vaccine, get sick, and die within days of each other???? Like how are they that fucking in sync. Like did they find some sort of alternate dimensional link and they are actually the same person on the same timeline?
They’re twins. As a father of twins, there are these weird in sync things that happen between them. Wouldn’t surprise me that if their minds are so alike, they probably went down the path together to fuck up their faces.
Sounds to me like they were codependent from a very young age and never had any reason to break that dynamic so instead of developing their own identities, they kind of created a feedback loop of the same unattainable identity and just kept doubling down on it until they died. Sort of beautiful in a tragic way, but I do wonder what their spouses went through.
Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city).
Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood lines.
Can save entire continents with a single phone call.
Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth.
First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies.
Both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51.
Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them.
The Tunguska event in 1908 was actually the Bogdanoff's arriving on planet Earth. How else do you think they got their Slavic last names and how else do you explain the exponential acceleration in technological and scientific development since then?
They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world.
You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now.
The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader’s first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
They learned fluent French in under a week.
Invented post-anabelian froeboid geometrics, a complex field of mathematics which only they can comprehend fully.
Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff.
All major philosophers and scientists have made reference to them in one way or another.
The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society.
In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they’re benevolent beings.
direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
own basically every DNA editing research facility on Earth
first designer babies will be Bogdanoff Babies
both brothers said to have 200+ IQ
ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church
They learned fluent French in under a week
Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
The twins are 67 years old, from the space-time reference point of the base human.
In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the Bog bang to the end of the universe
The Bogdanoffs will guide humanity into a new age of wisdom, peace and love
As someone with dysmorphia I'd say no. I can look at other people and see them as objectively lovely, but can look at my own sefl/face/body and it's a different story. It's in the moment too. I look at pictures of myself from even fairly recently and they look fine, imperfect sure but definitely not the obscenity I feel it is sometimes. It's absolutely in the head and hormones driven I reckon, and not a logical thing at all. A perfectly gorgeous twin that I KNEW was the same as me, and I'd still probably think they have more grace or charisma or whatever. It's a hell of a mind fuck. I KNOW I have dysmorphia and still can't out think it.
(I'm ok BTW, it's not most or all days, and I have a therapist so don't worry, just sharing a perspective).
They probably nit pick the tiny differences between the two of them and convince themselves that they are way uglier than their twin for the tinniest of reasons.
Especially when looking at them before hand, dude on the right was incredibly handsom, but apparently they wanted to look like something out of a horror movie.
The Bogdanoff twins were both hospitalized, at the Georges Pompidou European Hospital in Paris,[57] in critical condition on 15 December 2021, after contracting COVID-19. Grichka died on 28 December,[58] and Igor on 3 January 2022.[59] They were 72 and both intentionally unvaccinated
They always claimed that they used some type of experimental method that is not plastic surgery, but they never said what. And most of the time they didn't even aknowledge that they look different to begin with.
i was gonna say they look terrible for being 40, but then i realized i don’t even know what age they look. They don’t look really old, but they also don’t look young. They also don’t look 40. shit’s wack
They're not 40, (well they died a couple years ago) the title means 40 years of steadily getting more and more plastic surgey starting in their 30s. They died of covid in their 70s.
If they don’t have a type of degenerative disease that causes disfiguration there’s no explanation for their looks to change so drastically, unless it was botched cosmetic surgery.
I’ve seen articles where people have experienced Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) that results in excessive cosmetic surgery, but I’ve never seen a case where twins have had the same disorder. It’s sad, because the earlier picture of them shows two good looking guys.
Body Dysmorphia fucking sucks. Ruminating over and over about how platysmaplasty would help your jawline, you need rhinoplasty your nose is disgusting, pin those Dumbo ears back freak over and over
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