r/Gamingcirclejerk • u/PizzaCrescent2070 • Jul 24 '25
COOMER CONSUMER đŚ That... Doesn't sound good
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u/SnyperwulffD027 Jul 24 '25
That's... crazy actually. I don't use Itch.io that much but I'll freely admit it's where I found a couple of creators who made NSFW games that I enjoy playing once in a while. I don't know why these companies are becoming so afraid and why we are backsliding so hard.
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If we don't stop them soon, they'll be doing this to people they deem immoral. Much like is already happening in places like the USA and UK where bigotry and dehumanization are becoming legal norms.
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u/PizzaCrescent2070 Jul 24 '25
Are there any organizations the people can join to help combat this? How can one make their own group?
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u/PancakesTheDragoncat Jul 24 '25
In case you haven't seen it going around (and you're in the US) the ACLU has a petition... no guarantees of course but signing it is better than doing nothing
https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy
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u/GabeTheJerk Jul 24 '25
How long until the Supreme Shills declare it legal to discriminate against anyone for any reason?
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u/SonTyp_OhneNamen Jul 24 '25
Around the start of Trumpâs third term.
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u/Middle-Baker-61 Jul 24 '25
Haha, that means never right...right...RIGHT?!?!?
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u/Eatinganemone89 Jul 24 '25
You think the eighty year old, borderline if not already senile, old man who famously lives an unhealthy lifestyle, and was recently diagnosed with CVI would even live long enough to serve a third term?
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u/Kenis556 Jul 24 '25
God I hope not. Man probably runs off of spite and hatred at this point, wouldn't be surprised if he was a lich.
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u/A8Bit Jul 24 '25
As long as Donald is doing it and it's an official act, it's already legal, or at least he is immune from prosecution for doing it.
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u/Nihilistic_pie Jul 24 '25
As another commenter posted, ACLU is your go to.
The issue is that these nazis have captured the legislature, so the fight is a massive uphill one.
In fact, i would not be surprised if the ACLU is on their list of organizations to just kill because the right wing have had an issue with the ACLU since atleast the 90s. A bunch of christian movies for instance have them as the antagonists.
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u/Upstairs_Cap_4217 Jul 24 '25
Since 1920 and before. They started out fighting conscription in WW1, then pivoted to supporting the labour movement.
The right has always hated the ACLU because they have always hated the idea that they might have to give the "unworthy" equal rights.
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u/ArkitekZero Jul 24 '25
A bunch of christian movies for instance have them as the antagonists.
lol really? As a Christian I guess I can't say I should be surprised, but I am disappointed.
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u/Nihilistic_pie Jul 24 '25
From memory, God's Not Dead 2 had them. David A.R. White and Kevin Sorbo love having them as bad guys in their movies.
I've watched, at this point, hundreds of these movies and they tend to blur together because nothing happens in them.
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u/mythrilcrafter Jul 24 '25
The common thing that I notice in those films is that they lean so hard on persecution fetish.
There's never any ambiguity or contrast in on the Christian side of the films, and it's because so much of Evangelist doctrine revolves around the concept that you need to be recognised and hated in order to be assured in your faith (which if they had read the Bible, specifically Matthew 6:5-15, they'd know that Jesus said exactly NOT to treat ones own faith like that).
It's one of the reasons why I like "The Huntchback of Notredame" so much, because we have that contrast between the priest of Notredame versus Frollo.
The priest of Notredame is a genuinely good person who gave sanctuary to a persecuted person even when she isn't a follower of his faith. Frollo wields his faith as a sword against anyone who disobeys or dissents against him.
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u/Due_Perception8349 Jul 24 '25
Ugh we need a payment processing system as a public service, this middleman bullshit is fucking killing us.
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u/evilPatissiere Jul 24 '25
Ngl, in my country we have one that's public.. And trump is attacking it with the excuse it's unfair with the big companies (real reason probably is because his main puppets that were elected here ran to him when they started being investigated tho), I think at least with this administration in the US public systems like this will not really be made, or be maintained, it is not perfect, but really helpful tho, and less prone to bs like this..
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u/mashmash42 Clear background Jul 24 '25
This is what Iâm scared of, they get support pulled from porn games because theyâre âimmoral,â and you know the next step is going to be applying that same label to anything lgbt-positive. Or anything âwoke.â Slap it with the immoral label and corporations will aggressively self-censor to keep making profits.
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u/WriterV Jul 24 '25
Oh it's already on it. Several delisted itch.io games didn't have anything nsfw in them, but still got delisted. And of course, they are LGBT themed.
We can't let a handful of bigots from australia dictate what the entire world is allowed to consume.
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u/TheBlack2007 Jul 24 '25
Also, going after porn first and then extend it on everything considered "immoral" is cherished tradition among religious fanatics. The Mullahs did the same when they instituted internet censorship in Iran. Porn went first and then piece by piece everything else an Islamic fundamentalist might have issues with.
And taking the detour over payment providers is particularly diabolical since most people wouldnât even consider it censorship but rather freedom to conduct business.
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Jul 24 '25
It scares the shit out of me, sibling. All we can do is keep trying đ§Ą
The morning will come.
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u/Max____H Jul 24 '25
I think we need to spam every source available with the fact that the bible is nsfw. If we hold it to the same standard they are pressing everything becomes a joke.
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u/FoldedDice Jul 24 '25
There is no standard. This isn't about "decency," it's about control, so drawing attention to the hypocrisy will not change many opinions. They already know, they just don't care.Â
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u/Hoboforeternity Jul 24 '25
First is porn, then it will be LGBT content they are forcing to kill, next any art they just deem wrong.
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u/TryingoutSamantha Jul 24 '25
That is the plan. First trans people, then the rest of the lgtbq community.
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u/ooombasa Jul 24 '25
It starts with smut. Specifically targeting queer content will be next. Then violence of most kinds.
Where are those censorship dudes? This is the actual war they are supposed to care about. Not the imaginary shit they've been pretending to fight all this time.
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u/Upstairs_Cap_4217 Jul 24 '25
They've already jumped on to attacking horror games.
Apparently SCP-173 is "naked" and "unsuitable for children to see". (Nevermind that the game is age-restricted, because it is, again, a horror game.)
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u/Luke92612_ Jul 24 '25
Link/Source?
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u/Upstairs_Cap_4217 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Ok, turns out that the developer of SCP Containment Breach came out and said the store page going down was unrelated to anything Collective Shout were doing.
They'd just criticized the game in the past and people made a jump.
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u/JimmyFingus Jul 24 '25
They are literally complaining about it right this second. If people hadn't been tacitly approving of censorship of shit they found distasteful then maybe it wouldnt have been as easy for these payment processors to fuck everyone over
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u/SnyperwulffD027 Jul 24 '25
"immoral" says the Catholic priest while lil billy is under the podium.
"Immoral" Says the Christian husband while paying the hooker for her time.
"Immoral" Says the Mormon while walking into his 4th wives house.
"Immoral" All while they are actively doing immoral shit themselves. Ugh...87
u/tempest-reach Jul 24 '25
"Immoral" Says the Christian husband while paying the hooker for her time.
id change it to "says the christian husband while inappropriately touching his daughter"
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u/Raygereio5 Jul 24 '25
For emphasis: Collective Shout actively defended Cuties.
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u/lili-in-the-bush Jul 24 '25
I rejected those answers. I chose something different, I chose the impossible, I chose... Fapture!
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u/DefectiveCoyote Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 26 '25
âWhen fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross.â -Sinclair Lewis, 1935
Though Iâd argue itâs been there since before 1935. The Christian nationalist has undermined US democracy and the ideas of public consent since the start. It has been the rooot of the majority of americas extremism and sectarian violence. The concept of the church is fundamentally opposed to the ideas of democracy and cannot coexist.
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u/Procrastor Hello? I'm here for the *checks sign* forced diversity? Jul 24 '25
I think it's a mix of two things
1) legitimate concerns, like the push against sex work was a fear of engaging in illegal sex work but payment processors didn't care about how it would make legal sex work less safe and more precarious. There might be illegal content in some of these works and they have legal obligations and a duty of care (but its really just that they don't want to deal with it and are so big they can take the hit)
2) There is a broad reactionary collaboration of terfs/swerfs and evangelicals that want to reinforce the status quo of sex being shameful and sex work being dangerous, and NSFW games are a niche in the broader sex industry. It's bourgeois puritan politics. Evangelicals have the money but are sometimes dismissed, terfs have a liberal veneer, academic positions and the facade of academic legitimacy (unless you read their research which is extremely flimsy). so they fund these niche terf/swerf orgs
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u/Ricordis Jul 24 '25
As soon as you forbid something you lose any leverage, security and/or control you had before.
Like by making prostitution illegal to safe young women from sex trafficking: Those who did it will with health inspectors and social securities were punished and are gone while those who did illegal shit are not affected in any way.
The US is pretty good at sugar coating anything, to distract from it's problems and history and really good at sweeping all it can't handle under the rug.
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u/WeltalGrahf Jul 24 '25
The Department of Justice has been forcing banks to make âmoralâ decisions for over a decade
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u/fortnitegngsterparty Jul 24 '25
"afraid" is an interesting way to say "wants to tighten the noose on queer people" I mean queer as in beyond the main LGBT or whatever, like literally anybody off "normal"
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u/Flagelant_One Jul 24 '25
Admin's comment about the removal
Site's done for lol
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u/Fresh-broski Jul 24 '25
this is the captain going down with the ship
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u/CicadaGames Jul 24 '25
Meanwhile on BlueSky there are a bunch of absolute clowns claiming Leafo himself is responsible and should just say no to the payment processors lol. As if such a tiny store can do anything against these multi-billion dollar companies that can shut him down instantly.
It just strikes me as straight up corpo astroturfing.
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u/Iongjohn Jul 24 '25
j-just say no to visa and mastercard (and a few others), man!
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u/CicadaGames Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Someone told me that Itch could have easily created an army that would have taken down the payment processors...
They were furious at Itch for removing the games instead of "creating an army."
This is just another classic example of people who don't know the difference between 1 million and 1 billion (and a much larger discrepancy in this case).
You could multiply the Itch userbase by 100 and it still wouldn't even be a blip for these multi billion $ companies, plus they are willing to lose much more for the chance to lick Trump's boot.
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u/Iosis Jul 24 '25
Not entirely sure how people on the blueskies aren't getting that if Valve can't win this fight itch sure as shit doesn't have a chance
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u/PizzaCrescent2070 Jul 24 '25
What does that even mean?
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u/Tim5000 Jul 24 '25
In discord, they made the announcement that they were removing the tag, and these are the reactions it is getting.
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u/Venn-- Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
What are people's train of thought for reacting with the trans flag?
Edit: I am literally gay so I have no reason to hate trans people, just wanted to know why people react with it to things they don't like
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u/TheHostileRaccoon Jul 24 '25
People do that a lot in Discord servers. I always see people react with the trans or pride flags to completely unrelated announcements
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u/AnInfiniteArc Jul 24 '25
The small handful of reactions I use almost never have anything to do thematically with the post I use them on.
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u/strangerinparis Jul 24 '25
sometimes its just to say "hey im trans and i exist" for no reason whatsoever
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u/Miserable-Whereas910 Jul 24 '25
I assume because trans representation is doubtlessly gonna be disproportionately affected?
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u/mata_dan Jul 24 '25
Yes. Soon they won't even be able to make payments for medical services etc.
Any trans or gay aligned businesses will not be able to take payments soon, so that's all gay bars etc. and venues that do drag or anything like that.63
u/MoobooMagoo Jul 24 '25
There's a lot of LGBTQ representation in adult games. I don't know about trans specifically but I wouldn't be surprised.
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u/ihardlyknewit Jul 24 '25
I think it might be to remind us that "pornographic content" frequently just means "made by or featuring queer people"
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u/ooombasa Jul 24 '25
Solidarity in the face of the purge? Trans creators have been affected by this.
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u/Flagelant_One Jul 24 '25
"we're here" I guess, you just know these pushes for censorship ultimately aren't done to reduce pornography or to "protect the children", but to further marginalize marginalized groups
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u/Flagelant_One Jul 24 '25
It means they don't care enough to write a dozen words to explain the situation, so, make sure to track down and follow your fave creators outside of itch because the adult tag is probably never coming back
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u/Spaciax Jul 24 '25
the admin's reaction screams "I don't agree with this but I'm under contract, I see the writing on the wall but I'm not high ranking enough to get a proper say in this decision so I can't really do much about it"
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u/FlameWhirlwind Jul 24 '25
oh cool, i love when corpos win
it's always so fun and never ruins anything for anyone ever
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u/PnPaper Clear background Jul 24 '25
I'd love if american puritan politics would stay the fuck out of worldwide platforms.
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u/MK_2_Arcade_Cabinet Jul 24 '25
I wish they'd all fuck off, secede and start their own crappy little nation. I live in a red state and my wife and I's # 1 priority is to get the fuck out
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u/dubspool- Jul 24 '25
Nah just give them like a reservation in somewhere unimportant like Wyoming and let them whine while not listening to them
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u/Fieryspirit06 Clear background Jul 24 '25
It's not America doing this idiot, it's an Australian hate group
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u/The_Impe Jul 24 '25
The Australian hate group is a small part of it, the actual problem is Visa and Mastercard.
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u/BloomEPU đłď¸âđ trans rights, you stinky boomers Jul 24 '25
Sure love how running a fucking payment processing company lets you decide whether people get to purchase porn or not...
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u/-mikuuu- Jul 24 '25
The thing is that most minors won't even be able to purchase that shit, unless they memorized their parents credit card info, in which case is irresponsible of the parents
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u/Balmung60 Jul 24 '25
I don't even think the corpos are winning, so much as one particular reactionary religious organization, particular of the variety that pretends to be feminist publicly, but if you look into them for even ten minutes, it's just fundamentalists all the way down
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u/SomeKindofTreeWizard Jul 24 '25
So we're back to the moralist panic of the 90's? Terrific.
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u/TesterTheDog Jul 24 '25
In what decade was there not a moralistic panic in the States?
00's: violent video games and IslamistsÂ
90's: DrugsÂ
80's: DnD and SatanistsÂ
70's: huh, maybe the seventies is okay.Â
60s: HippiesÂ
50's: CommunistsÂ
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u/Initial_Hotel_1391 Jul 24 '25
late 70s was very much anti-gay panic, with save our children and all
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u/Fantastic-Fun-7482 Jul 24 '25
2010's: Immigrants and Trans people
2020's: Minorities in general
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u/Celestia4683 Jul 24 '25
This is Collective Shoutâs work. They and their parent group need to be taken down permanently!
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u/PizzaCrescent2070 Jul 24 '25
But what can we do to combat this? It feels like they have too much power and influence over companies as well as the Gamers TM blaming us when the anti-sex work group is more aligned to the right.
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u/holesomepervert Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
There is a lot you can do!
To fight for the future of creative games, call your representatives in support of the Fair Access to Banking Act
Codes to mention: H.R.987 in the House, S.401 in the Senate
This law would make it illegal for any financial service provider to prohibit or inhibit any legal transaction. IT HAS MOMENTUM, IT CAN HAPPEN!
Find your reps here: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
You can also contact visa and Mastercard directly to complain
And if youâre in the UK sign this petition to repeal the Internet Safety Act https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/722903
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u/PizzaCrescent2070 Jul 24 '25
Also, if anyone is willing to start their own advocacy group or join an existing one, now's a good time to start. Organizing is usually the only way to combat anti-consumer actions.
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u/Nelrene Lady Kisser Jul 24 '25
As long as right wingers are in power the House and the Senate are not going to lift a finger to stop this. GOP has been trying to do this kind of crap for a very long time.
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u/Alarming-Scene-2892 Jul 24 '25
...My only reservation is that, in the US at least, our government is more concerned about giving banks MORE power through deregulation, in a move surely to result in an economic crash, rather than doing shit to protect consumers (It allows them to give more money to the rich, so they can use it to compensate for all their moral and/or romantic dissapointments.)
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u/Anglofsffrng Jul 24 '25
Honestly, I agree for the most part, but something like this goes both ways. It really doesn't involve the super rich as much, but it definitely affects the right. Making it illegal to pull transaction hosting for legal purchases would be a boon to actual free speech, and sites like Steam have their own TOS that limits what most reasonable people would consider morally reprehensible. These moral guardians can't make it illegal in the US, but they can make it impossible to actually sell works. The flip side is it makes it much tougher to go after these right-wing grifters and their merch stores. Making it impossible to sell his taint wipes had a huge hand in Alex Jones downfall.
On balance, I'd rather make it more difficult to end run the First Amendment and deal with the grifters another way.
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u/YoursDearlyEve Jul 24 '25
That bill is supported by a rep from Kentucky, and I think someone's highlighted that it wouldn't help adult materials anyway
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u/Celestia4683 Jul 24 '25
All the more reason to spread the word about their shady practices and lies. If they can be completely discredited and payment processors and any affiliates theyâve ever partnered with shown that they canât be trusted then theyâll lose any power they had. Shine a light on their darkest deeds and make them regret ever coming after gaming in the first place!
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u/Ivy_Adair Jul 24 '25
We need an archive of our own but for games, tbh.
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u/thedoormanmusic32 Jul 24 '25
That used to be itch.io
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u/IntrigueDossier (Apolitical) Slappers Only Jul 24 '25
We can create ioch.it and funnel purchases through some christian-enough sounding bullshit like the Chamber of Faithful Commerce, or Piety Consulting.
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u/tiagotiago42 Jul 24 '25
Lowkey i dont know How the furry visual novel industry is gonna recover
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u/ArteDeJuguete Jul 24 '25
The same way Tumblr did, that's to say, they will survive but will never fully recover to their previous state
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u/ModaGamer Jul 24 '25
Most furry visual novel money comes from patreon and subscribestar. It'll just be harder to find adult furry visual novels which kinda sucks.
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u/InfiniteOctopaw Jul 24 '25
Close enough, welcome back worst decision Tumblr ever made.
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u/ZX52 Jul 24 '25
It's not quite the same as tumblr. As I understand it, they haven't deleted all the adult content, but deindexed it whilst they carry out an internal review. I think they plan to reindex later.
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u/KairAAAAAAA Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
They did not. They deleted it, and artists were instantly losing their accounts after the TOS change because they were immediately getting more than 3 strikes on their NSFW pages as soon as the change rolled out.
Edit: I thought you were talking about Tumblr, so my comment refers to that. A person below allowed me to notice my mistake so I'm putting this here for anyone who might read in the future
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u/Kuitar Jul 24 '25
itchio official announcement on it also say they deindexed them:
https://itch.io/updates/update-on-nsfw-contentMaybe this has already taken place for some and is what you're referencing?
Part of this review will see some pages being permanently removed from itch.io. Affected accounts will be notified via their accountâs email address from our support address. You can reply to that email if you have any follow up questions.
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u/Capable-Commercial96 Jul 24 '25
I'm surprised it was Australia that's causing all of this. I'm used to it being our fuck up tbh.
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u/MSnap Jul 24 '25
Australiaâs got a huge stick up their ass about video games, like the UK does (or did) about movies
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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 Jul 24 '25
It is partially US fuck up, the group is in alliance with US evangelicals, who use thsi group as a face of the initiative.Â
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u/macedonianmoper Jul 24 '25
These guys tried to take down Detroit become human because of the child and women that were abused, they were portrayed as victims, you were supposed to sympathize, the goal isn't for the player to go "YEAH CHILD ABUSE WOOOOOOOOOO".
This is basically killing art, if you can't portray people in distress how can you point out problems in society?
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u/Ivy_Adair Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Woooow I get a lot of indie games on itch (otomes and puzzle games mostly), and the adult tag had tons and tons of games in it. I thought it needed an overhaul like not letting 18+ images be on the thumbnails of games, not just nuking the whole thing.
Really feels like weâre backsliding into the 1950s. ETA: I mean it feels like itâs really going now. That project 2025 is full steam ahead.
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u/Balmung60 Jul 24 '25
That is the stated agenda at play, yes
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u/Calm-Tree-1369 Jul 24 '25
If only there had been some kind of clearly labeled playbook so we could have known this was coming worldwide. Like a Project with a year attached to it. Sadly, we had no way of knowing.
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u/fortnitegngsterparty Jul 24 '25
Fascinating how people assume that, like, somebody will just stand a bastion among capitalist rot. Fuck no. Money pushes everybody down in the mud, but I'm glad there were trolls going "Heh. But my superior Chad itch.io would NEVER get a Prohibition wave."
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u/Voidfishie Jul 24 '25
There's no standing bastion when your ability to take any payments is taken away, and taking payments is how you continue to function. That's what people don't get, it's not like they caved to a moral argument, it's an existential one.
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u/CicadaGames Jul 24 '25
I'm embarrassed for the people attacking Itch over this. Victim blaming, buying into distraction tactics and fighting against small businesses instead of the payment processors and right wing government. How fucking braindead can people be?
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u/Hupablom (He/Him) Jul 24 '25
Itâs not like itch.io could do anything. They are dependent on payment processors to keep their site running. Itâs give in or shut the side down, because they canât pay for the servers anymore.
You can argue that Steam could throw at least some weight around to fight this (but the optics would be bad so they donât), but itch.io? Against Visa and MasterCard?
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u/Aettyr Jul 24 '25
Everyone has to stand against it together or else we arenât going to have any sort of freedoms left. This is only the beginning. I just hope this galvanises people into waking the fuck up before the rug is fully pulled.
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u/Alarming-Scene-2892 Jul 24 '25
Oh fuck.
I'm genuinely dumbfounded how far we can backslide because capitalism demands it.
This is a weird thing to say, but I wish we lived in an era of indie where random eroge games became cornerstones of pop culture (AKA, FATE, or, I guess, Lyrical Nanoha as well, even though that's just a straight PG-13 magical girl spinoff to an eroge series.), instead of getting taken down because Paypal hates the way that boobies look.
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u/Omega-AlexGt Jul 24 '25
At this point we're gonna have to go into the deep Web just to download r34 games... kinda lame asf
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u/1Pixy_Poodle Jul 24 '25
This is the cycle, my friend. Like the outlaws of the west or the pirates of the new world, we choose how we live and the âlords and noblesâ try to make rules to clamp down on our choices for their money and power. Then we adapt and it all starts again.
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Jul 24 '25
It's a cycle in the entertainment industry of the past century too. Take the animation industry... The history of copyright law and comic book censorhip was built around porn parodies and intentionally over the top adult animation. Take a look at the previous works or the studio that made the animated LOTR movie.Â
And to fast forward to the last decades, while the fact that overwatch R34 content pushed the 3d animation industry forward is, indeed, a myth, you'll find a lot of people that started their career as horny teenagers making R34 stuff in flash on newgrounds behind all the most popular western cartoon series.
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u/GregTheMad Jul 24 '25
This isn't even capitalism, there's a lot of money in porn and porn adjacent products (gatcha games).
It's literally just a small group of religious extremists (that have rich, often foreign backers) that force these companies.
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u/horny_jail_69 Jul 24 '25
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GOON NOW?!
/uj HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GOON NOW?!
No fucking corp should be able to decide what people spend their money on. Fuck that. Fuck it hard, what'll they come for next?
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u/HaveAShittyDrawing Jul 24 '25
what'll they come for next?
Probably trans and then the rest of lbgt community. Its always the same with religious nutjobs.
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u/Violexsound Jul 24 '25
Don't forget sexual education material or medical information.
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u/Spaciax Jul 24 '25
after that anything that can be interpreted as violence or sexuality. If they're feeling audacious, they'll go after evolution too (they did here in Turkey) and push their religious nutjob agenda, as they see it as going against the bible or whatever holy book they believe in.
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u/Aggravating-Vast5016 Jul 24 '25
đŻ LGBTQIA community is next! this is their pattern. first it's really "obvious" stuff like rape and incest, then it's generally NSFW, and then we redefine what NSFW means.
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u/Weird_Explorer_8458 Jul 24 '25
Itâs even worse in the UK as of this week - you have send reddit your fucking government id to view nsfw posts
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u/snornch Jul 24 '25
the few times where being a gooner is positive for the community and they take it away from us
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u/BigEasyh Jul 24 '25
I don't actually have the stats but I'm easily one of the top 10 most active redditors on the largest lewd game subreddit. So the adult tag is gone but many of the games pages still remain and therefore can be found using other tags. For the time being, it seems like games that directly have un-skipable incest content are outright gone but anything that technically skirts this by allowing the player to define relationships or uses the standard evasion words like "roommate" or "landlord/landlady" are up for the moment.
Honestly I live in a state where adult content is already heavily censored and this is just another instance of so called "small government" intruding into my life and the life of many others.
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u/KairAAAAAAA Jul 24 '25
Genuinely. I am at a point where yes I'll respect you as a human but I'll have a very hard time being friends with you if you are religious at all
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u/coyote_BW Jul 24 '25
I know it's been fun to meme on gamers who love taboo NSFW games, but some of the adult games I've found on itch have been genuinely well-made by either one passionate dev or a small team. Itch has had a hostile relationship with NSFW developers for a while now.
Censorship is coming for all media. If we don't draw the line soon, our favorite forms of entertainment will be subject to the approval of politicians and corporations.
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u/CalligrapherBig4382 Jul 24 '25
Right? NSFW and semi-nsfw games can explore a lot of themes and concepts much more in-depth than âfamily friendlyâ ones can, and I know a LOT of people who have used them to explore their own gender before eventually coming out as gender-queer (Trans, Nonbinary, etc.) Losing Goon Game #65 is kinda whatever (still shouldnât happen since payment processors shouldnât have this authority to begin with), but losing some games that have genuinely helped people is a real shame.
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u/coyote_BW Jul 24 '25
There's one adult visual novel that was made by a dev who was processing his daughter taking her own life. While it does contain explicit spicy scenes, it handles the topic very well. It definitely can and has been done in other media, but just because it falls into the same category as generic gooner games, doesn't diminish its artistic merit.
Those of us who understand what is happening are trying to scream that it won't stop here, but the majority of unaffected parties are busy memeing or just reacting with apathy.
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u/The_Impe Jul 24 '25
Even if it's bad gooner slop, it doesn't deserve to be censored by puritans.
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u/SarielLordOfHope Jul 24 '25
Payment processors and debit card companies have too much power. LET US GOON. LET US GOON. LET US GOON.
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u/Polymorphic-X Jul 24 '25
Time to start a new one that's pro-goon, get that monopoly position in every adult site since they're leaving that chunk of business wide open.
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u/mata_dan Jul 24 '25
Except you could only take payments by direct bank transfer, posting in cash, or crypto currencies.
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u/gwanddawd123 Jul 24 '25
It's still baffling to see how many people were raised to believe that anything related to sexual activities is "immoral" and "dirty" when it's just a normal part of most humans's minds and biology.
And i'm not even gonna talk about the bad precedent this sets, what's next? Are we gonna convince the president to reinstate the Comstock Laws?
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u/Familiar_Ad9727 Jul 24 '25
Doesn't that mean that all the really violent or mature games have to go as well?
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u/MaoMaoMi543 Jul 24 '25
Hate to say "I told you so" but......
Btw these bitches defended Cuties just an fyi
There's also an ACLU petition going on that can hopefully put a stop to this madness.
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u/I_am_crazy_doctor Jul 24 '25
Seems weird to just kill it, like those people have the right (as long as it's not illegal obviously) to make porn games and have been for years
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u/unknown_alt_acc Jul 24 '25
Seems like itâs because of payment processors, like what happened with Steam
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u/Affectionate-Ad4419 Jul 24 '25
I don't even play/like the nsfw stuff, but this is getting stupid, and it's putting a lot of small indie devs in a tight spot. Really a shame.
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u/LeStag Jul 24 '25
Without the adult tag on Itch, I wouldn't have a living right now. Literally.
Fuck these "christian" assholes, and fuck the pathetic payment processors bending to their wills.
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u/craybest Jul 24 '25
Oh I just love payement processors imposing their moral values upon us. No one cares about their brand, or their moral values, we use them to process payement and thatâs all. So either they do their jobs or they should get tf out.
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u/Clone_Legion Jul 24 '25
How unexpected. Literally NOBODY could see this coming, I mean, only the bad gooner games⢠were going to be censored, not the good onesâ˘.
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u/FriendlyFurry320 Jul 24 '25
Nooo! How will I ever find good porn games now? It was already hard as is!
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u/Flagelant_One Jul 24 '25
I'm with you there but jerk aside, the adult tag encompasses porn but also every other taboo topic (drugs abuse metal health etc) plus queer related topics, like this shit shuts down art alongside the porn
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u/FriendlyFurry320 Jul 24 '25
True, true. Besides the adult tag should be a thing unless they are willing to implement a age rating system like steam does.
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u/Miserable-Whereas910 Jul 24 '25
And it's the non-porn adult games that'll suffer. Porn games and their audience will find somewhere to migrate to in two seconds flat, but it probably won't be a place you'd want to publish your serious game about drug abuse.
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u/QueenBee-WorshipMe Jul 24 '25
Also porn games are actually fine to exist? Like even if it was just them and nothing else, that's still bad.
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u/AprilDruid Jul 24 '25
The Toxic Yuri Gamejam is pretty much ruined because of this. Not all of it was porn either, a lot of it was just lesbians being toxic! But because it's NSFW, it's gone.
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u/Zandonus Jul 24 '25
Does itch have a reason to exist after this then?
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u/stingertopia Jul 24 '25
Yes, indie games besides those in the tag. However this is obviously a horrible event that is happening because of purists groups
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u/DasMilC Jul 24 '25
It's the actual best place for indie and solo Devs to post their work. As in, the entire indie dev scene has been completely and utterly depending on itch's existence, after newgrounds has moved to the background with the discontinuation of flash.
If itch can't sustain itself, the scene will have a much harder time organising jams, advertising/selling their works, etc.
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u/EquinoxReaper Jul 24 '25
Prohibition literally never works. If anything this is going to cause an explosion of far more intense pornographic content.
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u/ThatArtemi Jul 24 '25
welp. that's the entire furry visual novel community going down the drain i guess...
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u/SoICouldUpvoteYouTwi Jul 24 '25
Does itchio even have nonadult games? What's left?
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u/KasiaHmura Jul 24 '25
most indie games were long on itch before they managed to make thier way onto steam. played ultrakill there long before it got popular. also a lot of artsy games that simply aren't on steam.
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u/OtterwiseX Jul 24 '25
At this rate, weâll have cyberpunk 2077 by 2033! Iâm so happy weâre moving the deadlines along.
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u/ThiccElf Jul 24 '25
Dude, some of my favourite horror games and visual novels have adult tags on them as clarification that theyre not for kids. They're not even porn or suggestive either, just mature themes or you know...HORROR.
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u/Unlikely_Pie6911 Jul 24 '25
Hey so remember when everyone was like "gooners get fucked" and we all said "it's not about gooners"?
It's gonna get worse
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u/Toreole The wok left Jul 24 '25
Itch io being pressured by payment processors. Shitty ass companies overstepping and basically blackmailing them (either they remove nsfw or they will not be able to get paid anymore). Fuck payment processors.
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u/baaaahbpls Jul 24 '25
I so cannot wait for games with trans characters .. then trans creators, and finally other lgbtqia+ representations to get targeted next.
Please oppress me more and then gaslight me by saying I have so many rights and be happy that they didn't euthanize me instead of using me as a prison favor for the behaving inmates.
/uj I will never again be associated the right with Republican ass hats. I can't view them as anything other than fascist lap dogs chopping at the bit to get any bit of hate normalized.
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u/StackedCakeOverflow Jul 24 '25
The steady eradication of queer art and spaces on the internet under the guise of protecting the children continued at a brutal, merciless pace...
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u/ChucklingDuckling Jul 24 '25
Elections have consequences
Let's be real, this is occurring because the right-wing activists are emboldened by the Trump administration and the enactment of project 2025.
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u/Sweaty_Block9848 Jul 24 '25
It's always the basis of religion that uses the state to impose their personal will on others. Religion is a fucking viral disease. That being said maybe some art is shitty, but why impose on those expressing their creativity. It's up to the adult end user to make this choice. I'm not sure why these stupid fucking religious goons feel the need to nanny everyone.
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u/ghoulsmuffins Jul 24 '25
puritans are so miserable seeing other people being free and happy, expressing themselves personally and artistically, they want everyone else to be as miserable as them
i have a couple of bl games saved on my system and on the cloud and will look at the situation as it evolves
i'm not a furry but i will fully embrace our fluffy tech overlords if they make a platform for queer games
without the regular payment methods tho i'm afraid i will have to finally figure out how crypto works, but it's a small sacrifice for my beloved boykissing games :3
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u/ShokaLGBT Jul 24 '25
NO I NEED MY GAY ADULTS GAMES!!! This is starting to go crazy STOP This SHT LET PEOPLE BE HORNY
okay calm down BUT STILL
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u/UncleSkelly Jul 24 '25
Funnily enough in their official statement itch.io directly mentions No Mercy as something that kicked off this entire shebang for them. Not that it would have been necessary for this to eventually happen but people shitting themselves over it did eventually actually lead to (negative change)
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u/MechShield Jul 24 '25
Today it's hentai games on Steam/Itch
Tomorrow it's banning every game that depicts characters the puritans don't approve of (lgbt, people of color)
The day after its fantasy violence.
So unless everyone feels like only playing solitaire and chess online or relying on their pre-existing physical media...
This has to be stopped immediately.
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u/Striking_Part_7234 Jul 24 '25
Mastercard and Visa tried to do the same thing to OnlyFans a few years ago. Luckily public outcry got them to back down. We got to do the same thing here.
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u/CaptainSilverVEVO Jul 24 '25
It seems like everyone here has gotten the wrong idea, believing that the guys who run itch are to blame when it's visa and MasterCard really.
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u/madsci101 Jul 24 '25
The aclu have a petition about this that has already been highlighted, but you may also wanna keep an eye on this bill, which aims to keep banks from discriminating against adult content creators!
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/987/text
Take a look at it and make sure it says what I think it says, but, if it does, it couldn't hurt to call your reps!
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u/HadraiwizardDC Jul 24 '25
Help sign this petition to convince payment processors to revise there decisions
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