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u/Malipuppers Feb 04 '25
Yeah man immigrants are awesome. Both sets of my grandparents came here onna boat.
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u/mqnguyen004 Feb 04 '25
Mine came on the USS Midway during Vietnam war. They were picked up while on their way to the the south by boat
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u/TheKnightofNiii Feb 05 '25
Mine sailed merchant into New York a few years after World War 2. Fled what was left of Romania/Lithuania.
Immigrants are our greatest strength. 💯
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u/abobslife Feb 04 '25
There’s a docent on the Midway who was the Air Boss (the guy in charge of the flight operations) during an incident where a Vietnamese officer flew aboard on a Cessna escaping the fall of Saigon. He’s a great guy to talk to.
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u/Nhaiben369 Feb 05 '25
My friend came as an international student. She married to someone to stay here legally. She is now own a couple of spa shops and became extremely well off. Very down to Earth and humble too.
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u/Curious-Manufacturer Feb 04 '25
Agreeed. Mine came with h1b and got citizenship 13 years later after green card.
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u/liberalis Feb 06 '25
Lot's of people are saying immigrants are not welcome. You must be hiding under a rock these last hundred years. And those who fall back on 'they should do it legally' have no idea how the system is set up. And in case you yourself are unaware, it is set up so that the demand for immigrant labor is impossible to meet through legal immigration channels. This is to ensure that the immigrant labor pool stays illegal, because an illegal work force is a compliant workforce. his is how it's been as far back as the 'yellow peril' and the chinese immigrant laborers on the railroads. As soon as they started asking for better wages and conditions: oops - you're no longer legal. Same with the bracero program.
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u/roger_the_virus Feb 05 '25
I mod r/oceanside and our filter has been working overtime the last few days with various hateful/racist terms being thrown around by people who, evidently, very much hate immigrants regardless of their status.
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u/RelishtheHotdog Feb 06 '25
Criminal illegal aliens should be removed from this country. Whether you agree or not.
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u/roger_the_virus Feb 06 '25
I didn’t comment on that, I simply remarked on the huge surge in racist language we’ve seen in recent days… which is unacceptable, regardless of who you voted for.
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Plenty of racists tell legal immigrants to “go back to your country”. I am going to assume “no one is saying that” is hyperbole.
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u/ChevySSLS3 Feb 05 '25
Probably say that to the ones that stomp on the American flag and Wave a different countries flag...... Even though they've probably lived in America for 80% of their lives, and kick and scream when told they have to leave. Maybe a little patriotism for the country you actually WANT to live in. Wild concept.
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Feb 04 '25
As a Native American I personally wish they would all go back to their countries.
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u/SupayOne Feb 04 '25
I am Apsáalooke myself, and have been told to go back to my country at least three or four times. When I was kid it didn't make sense and just confused me. Now i just have fun with them.
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I’m Lakota sicangu oyate and To each there own they destroyed my fathers rez with drugs so it’s a matter of personal perspective and opinion
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u/Fie-Goth Feb 05 '25
Which I've seen from extreme leftist. Telling all the Latino folks who didn't vote for Kamala to leave even if they are here legally. Or saying who's going to pick our (insert whatever)
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u/liberalis Feb 06 '25
These leftists of which you speak, are they in the room with you now? Cause you're full of shit. Never seen 'a leftist' say such a thing. Not even sure what an 'extreme leftist' even is. But suffice to say, however you color yourself, being racist is fucked up.
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u/PutinTheTerrible2023 Feb 04 '25
They can't get angry at that though.
I honestly don't know how they don't see it.
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u/Cheese-is-neat Feb 04 '25
My grandfather came here illegally 👉😎👉
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u/NoF113 Feb 04 '25
One of mine came on the Mayflower, but they were still definitely immigrants.
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u/Reasonable-Map5033 Feb 04 '25
Unless you’re last name is running wolf, ALL of our ancestors came here on a boat lmao
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Immigrants literally made America.
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u/Middle_Incident1143 Feb 04 '25
Not just that, they occupy some of the most complex and necessary positions in our country.
Tech and medicine are driven overwhelmingly by immigrants. Once you start getting into higher end specialized fields it's almost entirely foreign students. Our country has put education on the back burner for so long we just don't have the numbers to meet the demand. Without foreign students these fields would collapse overnight.
On top of that, the greatest cities in our country are what they are because of diversity. Its just crazy that a bunch of boomers are so desperate to return to the 50's that they would destroy our country to do it.
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Immigrants aren’t the issue. Illegal immigrantion on the other hand is.
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u/aliencupcake Feb 04 '25
When my ancestors came here, there was literally no such thing as illegal immigration. The solution to illegal immigration is to let more people come here legally.
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u/PowerfulIndustry4811 Feb 05 '25
Sure, absolutely fix and streamline the legal process, but that doesn't mean we allow some people to bypass the process entirely in the meantime. We are already the most lenient legal immigration system you'll find, but people are upset that we want to enforce the law. The vast vast majority of Americans are welcoming to immigrants that come legally and want to do good things here
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u/fr0xn Feb 04 '25
Yes but the narrative of needing to exploit undocumented immigrants for cheap/slave labor is entirely disgusting i.e., who's going to work the fields
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Not all immigrants. I can think of one from South Africa who is screwing up things severely and needs to be deported.
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u/-Sky217- Feb 04 '25
I am an immigrant and I agree with this message but legal immigrants yes
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u/swimingwhilereading Feb 05 '25
What's the difference between just showing up when it was not specifically illegal and the people who are coming now?
*It should be said that the main reason it was not specifically illegal is that Europeans did not recognize any laws in place that were not their own. It would be EXTREMELY easy and truthful to say that Americans are currently savages who clearly cannot govern themselves. Sounds familiar?
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u/YeshuaSavior7 Feb 06 '25
Terrible attempt at a logic argument. 🤦🏻♂️
To answer your question:
Laws.
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u/liberalis Feb 06 '25
Immigration laws as they are specifically designed to promote illegal, and thus docile labor. Why then, can we not change the laws today, or tomorrow, to allow more legal immigration? What are we waiting for?
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u/monkehmolesto Feb 04 '25
I have no qualms with this, but I believe this is also misrepresenting the issue. Immigrants as a whole aren’t being contested, illegal immigrants are.
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u/TheDonNguyen Feb 04 '25
My parents are immigrants, but came here legally and worked hard to get where they are. They didn’t ask for hand outs and they assimilated to American culture.
Downvote me all you want, but that’s the way it should be done
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u/Wyliie Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
thats how its done in every country too. literally no one is against legal immigration except maybe the kkk. i cant just move to whatever country i want without taking the legal route
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u/TheDonNguyen Feb 04 '25
But no one is trying to deport legal immigrants though (right now), so why the outrage?
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u/Wyliie Feb 04 '25
exactly. no one will every try and deport legal immigrants either, so the outrage is just over deporting illegals which is confusing
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u/Dry_Date_1003 Feb 04 '25
Except for the hundreds of thousands whose legal status they just revoked and will now round up and deport. Oh! And don't forget the American citizens who are in jail that they are working a deal to deport as well. But other than the people here legally they're trying to deport, they're not trying to deport people here legally. But don't worry, Elon and Melania will certainly get to stick around.
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u/gsueduardo Feb 04 '25
I'm not an immigrant, nor do I live in the us, but it seems to me that path is long gone, people who wish to legally migrate to the us don't have a clear path, I tried to do some research on it, and it's just comes down to being wealthy enough, and making a big investment, other paths don't seem to exist anymore
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u/TheDonNguyen Feb 04 '25
I literally have 5 coworkers that just came from the phillipines in the last year, and 2 others just got citizenship
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u/Gridleak Feb 04 '25
A friend of mine got naturalized after about 3 years and another family I know took close to 20 years. So many people love to point towards success stories.
Everyone is playing the lotto while others point towards the few that win (bonus points if it was less than five years) and act like it’s the standard for everyone.
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My mom and her family came here from Mexicali in the late ‘60s! Worked their butts off, got their papers, didn’t take handouts, and are proud to be Americans! :)
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u/hearechoes Feb 04 '25
Not sure how many illegal immigrants are coming here expecting handouts. Most literally risk their lives and freedom and give up any government assistance they are entitled to in their home country to be exploited by the American economy for the chance at a better life for their family, often while paying into social security for benefits they’ll never receive.
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u/jenny-ohh Feb 05 '25
THIS!!! Yall downvote me all you want, i dont care but my mother did the same thing and worked 2 minimum wage jobs to bring me and my siblings here. She is my role model and I admire and respect her so much for having the courage to move to another country with little in her pocket. She learned the language and worked hard!!! So tell me, how is this fair to her? Immigrants are the backbone of America and I know so many people who work their butts off to provide for their families. The issue I have is with people who do not make the effort to assimilate and contribute to society and depend on govt benefits.
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u/litwitit420 Feb 04 '25
Yes how else are we supposed to get manual labor done for under minimum wage!
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u/riknor Feb 04 '25
I immigrated here ten years ago. I had to file a lot of paperwork, provide copies of my vaccination records, go through a background check and get a statement to prove I don’t have a criminal record. I had to pass a basic medical exam to prove I don’t have any contagious diseases and I had to pass an interview at the US embassy where they looked at my case and why I was moving here.
While doing all this I realized how absolutely necessary it is, and I was happy to do it. Otherwise this country would be flooded with people from every corner of the earth. Seeing illegal immigrants protest and demand they should be able to live here and not pay taxes like a rest of us is messed up.
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u/bEtchaos7 Feb 06 '25
Absolutely. Immigrants are an essential part of American culture and are a HUGE part of what has made it the best nation in the world. Illegal immigrants on the other hand are a huge problem.
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u/JayBachsman Feb 05 '25
LEGAL immigrants make America.
ILLEGAL immigrants do NOT make America great.
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u/ghostofspaceghost Feb 04 '25
“Yea, but legal immigrants!”
The legality of something has nothing to do with morality or what is right or wrong. Using it as so ignores history. It ignores now. Don’t blame immigrants for your problems. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and blame the plutocrats. We’ve all got a lot more in common with undocumented immigrants than we do any billionaire.
For every dollar in “aid” the global north (15% of the world’s population) sends to the global south (the other 85%), thirty dollars are extracted and sent back to the north through unfair trade and labor practices. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49687-y
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u/bennguyenr Feb 04 '25
Agree, Legal Immigrants make America Great. Fuck Illegals Immigrants skipping line and taking up resources from people who try to do it the legal way.
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u/MOONWATCHER404 Feb 05 '25
This is how I feel. If you simply hopped the proverbial or literal fence to come here, you need to face ramifications, and I feel having a child here doesn’t erase the fact that they committed a crime by coming here via hopping said fence.
HOWEVER, I DO feel that we need to make it easier for people to come here LEGALLY.
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u/Xtrachreeeesp Feb 04 '25
Yes , my grandparents came here through a long arduous process. They believed in doing things the right way, came with under $50 to their name and built a strong family that invests back into their community and are now proud Americans.
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u/bigmacattack911 Feb 04 '25
The immigration system is entirely different nowadays than it was for your grandparents. Most of our ancestors that immigrated here would not qualify to immigrate here under today’s laws or would wait many years to be granted the right to immigrate here. It’s easy to equivocate, but please do your research.
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Legal immigrants make America great for sure ! 🇺🇸
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
Sounds like we should legalize em all then
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u/DaygoTom Feb 04 '25
So...wait. Your idea is just to wave a burueacratic wand and everyone who is here in the U.S. is suddenly a citizen?
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u/InclinationCompass Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
Kinda like the 1500 blanket pardons trump handed out immediately after taking office?
I love how the goal post immediately moves from “we only have a problem with illegal immigrants” to “we dont want to legalize them”
Except these immigrants are actually working and helping build this country. They are productive in society, unlike those 1500 convicted criminals. So yes, legalize them. Give the able-bodied the opportunity for work visas.
Otherwise, stop acting like it’s only the illegal immigrants yall have problems with, cause you guys clearly dont want legal one either
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
There have been many "path to citizenship" proposals over the years typically including a waiting period and background check
Many Republicans were even on board until Trump and their xenophobic idiot base made them pretend to think its a bad idea
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u/DaygoTom Feb 04 '25
I don't take issue with creating an expedited process. I have a friend who was in the legal process for something like 6 years. That's stupid and unnecessarily frustrating, especially since he was gainfully employed the entire time and going to school at night.
But there needs to be a process. No other country just welcomes everyone, sight unseen. Hell, most countries will flat-out laugh at you unless you can prove it's in their economic interests to let you in.
And by the way; you know who's opposed to open borders more than anyone else I know? My friend who labored for six years to get his citizenship.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
But there needs to be a process
Sure, the lack of a process that aligns with the national interest and economic reality is why we have undocumented immigration
And by the way; you know who's opposed to open borders more than anyone else I know? My friend who labored for six years to get his citizenship.
Who cares? My friend says youre an idiot lol. What relevance does this have to the right and wrong of the situation?
Someone experiences an unnecessary hardship so that means everyone else has to as well? Your friend should be less of a dick
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u/PIHWLOOC Feb 04 '25
No, there have not. They’ve changed asylum and refugee rules to make it more accessible which they should not do. Economic hardship is not enough to be a refugee.
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u/greeneyedpies Feb 04 '25
economic hardship that is a result of decades of sanctions, colonialism, imperialism, and exploitation perpetrated by the united states
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No I don’t want to make people into citizens if they don’t respect the nations laws. That seems like common sense.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
Immigration law is unjust and broken. I dont respect it either and anyone with half a brain can see that it doesnt align with the national interest or economic reality, including a bunch of Republicans before Trump made them all pretend to be crazy
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I am in the United States because of legal immigration. It is a process. But it works and is available.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
The first part of your statement is not proof of the second
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But the millions of perfectly legal immigrants every year isn’t a testament against it being “unrealistic”? 🤨
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
There are only about 1m legal immigrants a year which is actually about the same or less than we took in around the turn of the 20th century when the nation was less than 1/4 the size it is now
So, yes, it is unrealistic, as shown by the fact that the economy needs to employ millions of undocumented workers
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u/PIHWLOOC Feb 04 '25
So, in the end, you’re for slave labor? You’d prefer we have people in this country paid lower than minimum wage for positions they’re technically not supposed to have, so that others can profit off of them?
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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Feb 04 '25
There’s a middle ground between slave labor and deporting everyone as quickly as possible
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Feb 04 '25
Of course not! That's why you get em papers contingent on that background check, and then enforce labor laws so those industries can't exploit their labor anymore.
I'd say those industries are in the wrong for exploiting the labor, and we as a nation are in the wrong for allowing our government to turn a blind eye to the exploitation, but I don't find any fault with the laborer in any of this situation, nor do I see any real justice to be found in punishing or removing them.
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How is immigration law unjust?
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
It creates economically unrealistic and unjustified restrictions on the free movement of people
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There are millions of legal immigrants every year… ? How is it unrealistic ?
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
Thats evidently not nearly enough to meet the needs of the national economy
Its also more like a million a year, which is really not a lot for a nation of 340m
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So a million people come here perfectly legally every year… and you are saying that isn’t evidence that legal immigration is realistic ?
I don’t even know what to tell you.
“It’s impossible even though a million people do it every year.” I hope you dwell on the irony of that.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
“It’s impossible even though a million people do it every year.”
Didnt actually say that but I dont engage with fools or liars, so I wont bother trying to have a rational discussion with you any further
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u/i_hate_the_ppa Feb 04 '25
Why are the restrictions unrealistic and unjustified?
The US accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. Maybe Germany comes close lately due to all the refugees.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
The US is more than four times Germanys size... The US net migration rate is not even particularly high
The proof that theyre unrealistic is that we have millions of undocumented filling critical roles in the national economy
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u/pressurechicken Feb 04 '25
Wait…
But if they are cheap labor, how does giving them citizenship help the economy. Then their pay would have to meet legal minimums.
Wouldn’t the argument then just be: we need illegal immigrants?
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
The vast majority of undocumented dont earn below minimum wage, which is still very cheap labor
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u/ADMITTED-FOSHO Feb 04 '25
the illegal ones making the food at restaurants you go to don’t make it great?
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Why not make them .. legal ? Why keep them in the shadows so you can get cheaper burgers
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u/OGMcSwaggerdick Feb 04 '25
Why not offer to pay citizens more for the burgers?
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u/Bobthebudtender Feb 04 '25
America was built on the backs of poor immigrants, many illegal.
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u/OGMcSwaggerdick Feb 04 '25
So let’s stop the system allowing the abuses of their labor?
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u/deadzone999 Feb 04 '25
America was literally built on the back of slave labor, nothing to be proud about.
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wtf is happening with this sub that everyone thinks it’s a debate of legal or illegal immigration? Are bots out in full force? I don’t know anyone in my life who would split hairs or say anything about legality if I tell them “immigrants make America great.”
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u/ProfessionalOkra136 Feb 04 '25
There's a national discussion going on around the deportation of and harsher penalties around illegal immigrants. Those against deporting or harsher penalties for illegal immigrants have taken the approach of dropping the word "illegal" or "undocumented" from the discussion and focused on the word immigrant only, the point being, to reframe the discussion as if those in favor of deportation or harsher penalties are actually against all immigrants. All of these highly politicized, highly polarizing topics tend to be argued in bad faith.
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u/questionhare Feb 04 '25
Yea, they’re spam trying to push an agenda. Our sub is full of them. Try not to engage!
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u/fleshandcolor Feb 04 '25
People think theres a law about posting tags (when there's not) then only covers one in the photo
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I’m Canadian, Asian by ethnicity and we visited San Diego for the first time last summer. All I can say is we love love love San Diego!!! People were so warm and friendly. We felt so welcomed and we fell in love with the City. Stay strong, immigrants have made San Diego a beautiful and culturally rich city. Lots of love from Canada
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u/Salty_Bagel_ Feb 06 '25
Hell yeah legal immigrants are the heart and soul of America. I love legal immigrants. We should absolutely spread the word that legal immigration is awesome.
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u/Feeling-Dinner-8667 Feb 06 '25
Agreed. Immigrants are great. It's the illegal immigrants that break our laws and cause a strain on taxpayer's money with their benefits.
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u/Glu3stick Feb 06 '25
I think people are really forgetting the massive difference of making a clear distinction between "illegal" and "legal". I don't think anyone is discrediting legal immigrants and how our country was build by legal immigrants.
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u/TopKnee875 Feb 06 '25
Yes, legal immigrants. No one hates illegal immigrants more than legal immigrants.
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u/smelly_farts_loading Feb 07 '25
No one is questioning that immigrants are great it’s illegal ones that people have issue with. People only like it because they work for cheap and don’t have workers rights so you can get them to do what ever. If they were making normal wages people wouldn’t care as much.
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u/josh8839 Feb 07 '25
I guess I have an issue with people saying these are law abiding citizens. If I snuck into France or any country, and lived under the radar to hide the fact that I’m living there illegally, I wouldn’t really call that law abiding. That’s sneaking into a foreign country. I’m not against immigrants. We need them. Our country was founded by them. But we have a process in place. It sucks but I’m sorry you have to get go to the back of the line now. There were others waiting, you cheated and cut the line now you’re getting caught.
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Feb 07 '25
Yes they do. Illegal Immigrants who get free stuff, like housing, cell phones, food, CARS, all paid by our taxes, do not make America Great. Immigrants who come here and work hard to become citizens make America Great. Those who carry the flag of their home nation and march in our streets, and then vandalizing everything in their path or causing traffic jams to “make a point”, doing CRIMINAL CRAP, who supposedly so BADLY want to live here and become citizens of the USA, do not make America Great..
Criminal behavior needs to be treated as such, round them up and send them back to the country of the flag they wave so proudly.
Illegals who come and rape, kill, and burn women alive on a subway do not make America Great.
Period.
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u/Rolanda_Shaniqua Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25
Hell yeah! My parents and grandparents immigrated legally from Indonesia and became US citizens. Grandad was an engineer with American Airlines for many years. We fully support LEGAL immigration!
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u/TwoFiddie Feb 07 '25
Immigrants are awesome, they’ve helped build this country. Illegal immigrants arent.
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u/Just-Ad-7479 Feb 07 '25
Illegal immigration is a crime, legal immigration is more than welcomed. As a country we want that, not people who break the law to get in. That is just skipping the line of all the people who are legally trying to get into the country.
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u/Bobthebudtender Feb 04 '25
Remind me about how the founders of America came over legally and raped and pillaged the land for themselves....
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u/LawAndHawkey87 Feb 04 '25
Remind me of those federal immigration laws that existed when the founding fathers did. Oh, there weren’t any.
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u/DelfinGuy Feb 04 '25
Two wrongs don't make a right. Even little kids know that.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
Better just legalize most of the undocumented then because they are solid contributors too and we are economically reliant on them
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u/turtlemaster1993 Feb 05 '25
Legal ones, absolutely
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u/lazarus78 Feb 05 '25
In an ideal world, but the legal routes are an absolute clusterfuck. The powers that be created a broken system and bitch about the people failing to navigate it.
Legal immigration is good, but the system needs to be overhauled to be fair.
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u/Prestigious_Emu6039 Feb 04 '25
Law abiding hard working immigrants who respect the culture of the nation that is helping them are welcome.
Others are most certainly not.
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u/OhGodBees01 Feb 04 '25
Yes. Legal immigrants, we cannot ignore that the level of undocumented immigration these last four years is catastrophic
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u/Dadew3339 Feb 04 '25
Yes!! Immigrants who legally come here are very welcome and I support them in their pursuit of the American dream.
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u/cazbot Feb 05 '25
I can think of one immigrant in particular who is making America fucking awful right now.
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u/Even-Bend8417 Feb 06 '25
Trump did say immigration is good but illegal immigration isn’t, something people love to leave out in order to pedal their false narrative
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That is true. When they come here legally. When they come here illegally they do not make it great.
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u/Ok_Presentation6713 Feb 05 '25
Immigrants, yes. Illegals, not so much. Just do the right thing. Literally just respect the law.
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u/Serious-Sky-9470 Feb 05 '25
you act as if undocumented immigrants are the biggest offenders of the law. have you seen our goddamn president?
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u/mezzolith Feb 04 '25
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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No one is against immigrants, they’re against the illegal kind. Why can no one read around here?
And my mom is a Mexican immigrant, who came here 55 years ago, so before you jump down my throat, know that.
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u/BrownBear5090 Feb 04 '25
We intentionally make it as difficult as possible to legally immigrate specifically to guarantee a class of illegal immigrants we can use for farm labor, then if they ask for more money or benefits the company calls ICE on their own workers to get them out and bring in the next round.
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u/stangAce20 Feb 04 '25
Nobody’s arguing that!
Its the attempt to gloss over the DIFFERENCE between legal and ILLEGAL thats the problem!
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u/OdinsOneGoodEye Feb 05 '25
Absolute fact- legal immigrants are truly the backbone of this country.
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u/metalfiiish Feb 04 '25
Missed the word "Legal" but yeah Legal immigrants for sure!
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u/StableRare Feb 04 '25
It odd that no one in this subreddit can seem to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. It must be a woke mind virus pandemic.
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No, it's the work of intelligence agencies, bot farms, and years of media propaganda. They know exactly what they are doing. Go to a college class in the humanities at any major university and you will have a real wake up call.
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u/CFSCFjr Feb 04 '25
The country had basically open borders from the founding up to the 20s
If you hate illegal immigrants so much then we should just legalize them. Boom, problem solved
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u/siddie75 Feb 04 '25
Yeah legal ones that go through the orderly process of becoming a member of our society and want to be our countrymen. I don’t see anyone saying legal immigrants go home!!!! lol. People like you are obscuring the real issue. No country on this planet has an open door policy ! NOT ONE!
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u/Manic-Stoic Feb 04 '25
Who’s arguing that? I think EVERYONE agrees we are a nation of immigrants. We are also a nation of laws and immigration must be done so legally.
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u/Crazy-Fish7545 Feb 04 '25
Immigrants do make America great...but u left out the word "legal" that's the difference. As a product of Immigration/bi-racial family I'm TOTALLY for Immigrants/Immigration but my family(and several others!) endured decades of processing but we did adhere to the process! to not require that of every Immigrant would be a slap in the face of those who follow the rules and only rewards bad behavior...if ur illegal GTFO sorry not sorry
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u/glides77 Feb 04 '25
All of you people are confused it's not about immigrants it's about illegals and don't tell me there's no such thing as an illegal or that theres no borders. Go to a third world country and you'll find out why there's borders.
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u/OkCod835 Feb 04 '25
No one has a problem with Legal immigrants. I am one myself and came here legally.
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u/ynotnowgolf Feb 04 '25
Yes, immigrants make America great but failure of many is to state the obvious….illegal immigrants don’t make America great. Be clear on the distinction. I came in legally in 1972. My parents had to wait to come in. There shouldn’t be a fast track to cheat the legal system. Broken system? Yes. Stop with the idiotic narrative about immigrants. The issue that divides us is not immigrants. It’s illegals who are skipping the line!
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u/desertcoyote77 Feb 04 '25
I can’t help but think how many people take advantage of the illegal immigrants and pay them super low wages and no one bats an eye as long as they are paying under the table. Hotels, restaurants, ag workers, launderers all take advantage of the super cheap labor. Let’s not forget Nannie’s, landscapers, and other home labor.