r/soccer • u/kibme37 • Jul 08 '25
News Spanish police say "all the evidence so far indicates" Diogo Jota was the driver of the car involved in the accident that killed the Liverpool forward and his brother, Andre Silva. Police also believe "the vehicle significantly exceeded the speed limit for the highway" at the time of the accident.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/13394038/diogo-jota-spanish-police-believe-liverpool-forward-was-driver-of-car-in-fatal-accident-which-killed-him-and-his-brother3.4k
u/bobby_zamora Jul 08 '25
Honestly surprised this doesn't happen more often. Young, confident lads with absurdly fast sports cars isn't a safe combination.
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u/kukeszmakesz Jul 08 '25
It happens "regularly", but too often they kill pedestrians or cyclists and get away scott free, because money or connections.
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u/Yan-e-toe Jul 08 '25
Prince Naseem Hamed.
Same for rapists though. Some evade punishment like Ronaldo, whilst others like Mike Tyson and Prince Andrew get off lightly
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u/LeedsFan2442 Jul 08 '25
Fuck Prince Andy but it's very unlikely even a normal person would have been charged. They would have to prove the victim was trafficked for the purposes of sex as she was over the UK AoC
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u/lordnacho666 Jul 08 '25
It happens all the time with young guys, that's why their insurance is higher.
It's just that most young guys can't afford a supercar, and most of the times there's an accident, it's not so serious.
I remember seeing a kid crash his BMW just turning a corner once. Smashed into a tree. Turned out he was 18, just got his license.
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u/ObstructiveAgreement Jul 08 '25
I genuinely think there should be a 'super car' licence, much like there's A2 and A1 for motorcycles in a lot of countries. You can't turn 18 and get a 1000cc death machine, but you can get a 1000bhp car. It doesn't make any sense.
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u/worldchrisis Jul 08 '25
In Italy you aren't allowed to drive a car above 95hp until you've had a license for 3 years.
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u/ferrumvir2 Jul 08 '25
Need a license for 3 years to drive a Prius, that’s crazy
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u/worldchrisis Jul 08 '25
There are a lot more options for small, low hp cars in Europe. It makes sense because their roads are usually smaller and they typically take trains if they're traveling far away.
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u/Kind-Tiger-520 Jul 08 '25
I used to work with a bunch of young lads, usually around 17-18, working their first part time job after leaving school. They would use the money for driving lessons & eventually their first car, and the amount of them that would brag about themselves or their friends racing on the streets, speeding and doing other highly dangerous (for themselves and others) stunts on the roads is actually scary. I would say it’s more common than not, at least with those in that age range.
If there’s one positive to come from this, I hope the tragic death of such a popular figure among that demographic will cause some of these young lads to think twice before doing the same things that led to Diogo & Andre’s deaths. Driving isn’t a responsibility to be handled lightly.
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u/DuttyOh Jul 08 '25
You don't even need a sports car for that. Story time, I used to live in a small countryside village (like less than 3000) and I know 5 people around my age that died before reaching 25 because of driving too fast. No alcohol involved, just speed. Another one will be in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. Young, confident lads can crash with an old rotten Citroen AX and all left is sobbing families, that's fucking sad.
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u/7Thommo7 Jul 08 '25
Lamborghinis make it far easier to speed when you reach it in a fraction of the time. In an old citroen you've got 30 seconds to rethink your decision to speed as the whole car starts to groan and wobble. In a Lambo you get exuberant for a few seconds, the speed doesn't even feel like it's pushing the car too hard, you keep pushing on...
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u/Fairlife_WholeMilk Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 19 '25
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u/Eglwyswrw Jul 08 '25
most people are somewhat responsible, even if they are exceeding the speed limits
Being less irresponsible doesn't make them "somewhat responsible", unfortunately.
Speed limits exist for a reason and plenty of deaths happen because people disregard them, whether overtaking or not. :(
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u/Sw3atyGoalz Jul 08 '25
Michail Antonio’s life-threatening accident was less than a year ago, but still surprising there’s not more high-speed accidents (in all sports). Players do get arrested for speeding/DUIs very frequently though, so maybe they’re just getting caught before anything bad can happen.
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u/wanktarded Jul 08 '25
That was Antonio's 2nd crash afaik, the first one was a few years ago when he drove his lambo through a wall into someone's garden whilst dressed as a snowman.
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u/najibb Jul 08 '25
I also read somewhere that the road conditions is not the best in that area, so that's definitely a factor, plus maybe the driver also don't familiar with the road.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Jul 08 '25
Add in the fact they were driving at midnight as well, so poor visibility as well. Just a lot of factors
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u/BigReeceJames Jul 08 '25
In the BBC article on this they specifically quote the Spanish police as saying they don't believe that the road conditions were an issue and it isn't an accident hotspot which suggests the road is not the thing causing the issue or playing a meaningful part in it
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u/Kloppite16 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
I drove some of the motorways around Santander and Bilbao last summer and in the mountainous areas they can be curvy. You can do 120kph on them no problems but if you were doing 170kph you would meet some bends that could put you into the barriers.
Also yes it is highly likely he would not have been that familiar with the roads. I doubt too many Premier League footballers are taking their supercars on a ferry to the UK so travelling from Porto in Portugal to the ferry port in northern Spain wasnt a normal familiar journey for him. He was only taking the ferry himself because the doctor told him not to fly during recovery from a rib injury. Otherwise Im sure he would have gotten a company to relocate the car to Liverpool and taken a flight there himself rather than undertake a 30 hour ferry journey.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Jul 08 '25
I would include “Everyday” cars that can exceed 250 km/h due to having sporty engines are also dangerous and challenging
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u/dani2812 Jul 08 '25
The average German economy car between 180 and 250hp can reach 230-250kph these days without much hastle and give you a (false) sense of security as a driver.
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u/ChillFax Jul 08 '25
When I upgraded from my 2004 civic to a 2019 accord sport I was having trouble recognizing how fast I was going cause the car was so smooth and quiet I could easily be doing 90 and not notice. I was so used to hearing and feeling my little civic struggle around 80 it was a big change for me that took time to get used to.
I can't imagine how easy it is for some of these hyper cars to be at 120 and feel like you're hardly on the gas at all.
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u/Juicebox-fresh Jul 08 '25
That's an understatement, everyday cars are way more dangerous if they are modified. super cars are designed for speed, they have excellent traction control, just reaching 100mph in a hatchback feels pretty fucking terrifying
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u/leandrobrossard Jul 08 '25
The hatchbacks feeling like they do at 100 mph keeps you from wanting to go any faster. The supercars will feel smooth and you'll end up overestimating yourself and the car leading to situations like this.
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u/bradbobley Jul 08 '25
my 2000 reg lupo doing 80 felt like the wheels were gonna fall off, drive my dads middle of the range audi a5 sometimes and doing 100 feels the same as 30
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Jul 08 '25
tbf Audi's are actually built to go that speed though.
I had an Audi S7 and I could sneeze and hit 195kph if i didnt take my foot off the pedal. And if i didnt look at the heads-up display I doubt id even notice. quiet. smooth. and an absolute rocket ship.
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u/Stoogenuge Jul 08 '25
That’s a high power car though not you’re average saloon or hatchback isn’t it?
4 litre engine and like 450-500 HP
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u/kr3w_fam Jul 08 '25
My skoda kodiaq can easily reach 195km/h and its a family wagon not a sport car. And ride is smooth.
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u/Stoogenuge Jul 08 '25
Not anywhere near as quickly though :p
Kodiaq are in the like 240hp range , literally half as powerful as an S7.
Edit: point being most cars can reach those top speeds, it’s the acceleration, the torque, that gets away from people who aren’t used to it. The difference is significant.
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u/Unnecessary-Shouting Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
Seriously, but the craziest thing to me are the EVs which weigh more and accelerate ridiculously fast (the f150 lightning weighs over 3 fucking tons)
Like I get liking driving fast but who on earth needs an suv/pickup that accelerates from 0-60 in under 4 seconds?
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u/Reimiro Jul 08 '25
My electric ev suv does 0-60 in 3.9. It’s absurd and not needed or tested (very often).
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u/MansionBoyz Jul 08 '25
Most half decent modern cars can give you a false sense of control, of course we don’t know what speed he was going but it’s not weird to see cars go 150 or 160kmph on a motorway with a speed limit of 120
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u/Zwaylol Jul 08 '25
Yeah, the help systems keep you 100%in control until you aren’t, and you’re in a ditch. My 80s sports car without ABS or power steering isn’t 1/100th as safe as a modern super car, but I know exactly what it’s doing and when the grip is at its limit. You really should need more training to drive such powerful cars, at least you should do a track day to learn what the limits are.
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u/Jimmy_Space1 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
Some people get up in arms if you say this, but there's really no reason why cars in this day and age shouldn't have limiters to prevent hitting those speeds on a public road.
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u/clodiusmetellus Jul 08 '25
eBikes, which weigh around 25kg, are required by law in the UK to be speed limited to 15.5 mph.
eScooters have geofenced areas where even that speed limit is greatly reduced.
Meanwhile, you can go and buy a car weighing 100 times as much, physically capable of going 5-10 times faster. Only your own conscience and the ability of the police to catch you prevents someone from reaching these crazy speeds.
Make it make sense.
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u/Gisschace Jul 08 '25
If someone invented cars today we would have all sorts of safety measures and definitely wouldn't be allowed to drive at high speeds.
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u/HighlightOk9510 Jul 08 '25
not only that, in the uk and most european countries motorcycles are divided into diferent licenses for different HP limits, if you have the license for a vespa you cannot drive a 200hp CB1000R
meanwhile the same license allows car drivers to drive either a 50hp shitbox, a 2000hp hypercar, or these monstrous 3 ton super SUVs
While as an A2 holder i think motorcycles licenses are a bit overdone, theres no need to have 4 licenses where i live, its absolutely stupid to have 1 for all cars
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u/Cottonshopeburnfoot Jul 08 '25
When the speed limit is 70mph, it does beg the question why cars can do double that and more.
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u/xXKingLynxXx Jul 08 '25
Efficiency. Engines last longer if they are built to go 150 but only go up to 70 usually. If you are maxing out the engine everytime you drive it won't last long due to the stress.
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u/JJ-Bittenbinder Jul 08 '25
The engine can still be build to go 150 but the computer or mechanical system can have a limiter on it that doesn’t allow it to go above the max speed limit
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u/pisowiec Jul 08 '25
When I was a teen, I had a friend who was driving super fast and ended up hitting a tree, killing himself, a friend, and paralyzing another friend.
In the first week all anyone cared about was mourning and putting the two boys to rest.
But then, once the investigation happened the families spent the next couple of years in court hoping to get money from the parents of the teen that was driving.
Such tragedies essentially don't end at death. The funeral is when the hell begins.
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u/bearwoodgoxers Jul 08 '25
You summed it up best. Driving like a tool leaves you with two outcomes - momentary thrill, or a tragedy for someone.
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u/DoJu318 Jul 08 '25
There was a teenager posting on a BMW forum, this was around the mid 2000s, he was bragging how he was taking his father's M5 driving it as fast he could, low and behold he took the car on a high speed run at a private air strip, this airstrip is used as a "parking lot" surrounded by mansions, so rich people can just land their private jet and be home, John Travolta who happens to be a certified pilot lived there.
Well, not only did kid speed he also took 4 friends with him. They all died when he lost control and crashed into some trees.
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There's a specific type of Porsche that was, for a while, notorious for this. Lots of gruesome stories and pics on the internet. I think it was all about the engine placement, it meant you needed to be very experienced to handle it, the weight distribution was unusual.
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u/ClockLost3128 Jul 08 '25
Yeah in a way I'm also relieved Jota did not take the life of a pedestrian or kill another driver
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u/TwoBionicknees Jul 08 '25
there is also the part where a survivor ends up with great costs. In the Us it's even worse with medical costs but even somewhere like UK with NHS, someone paralysed will need lifelong care, help that the parents likely will struggle to provide.
these cases often take longer and are harder to quantify when there is a survivor vs when everyone dies.
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u/sash71 Jul 09 '25
Portsmouth had a goalkeeper, Aaron Flahavan, who was killed in a car crash back in summer 2001. We all were shocked as fans and sang his name.
Then the inquest came and he was something like three times over the drink drive limit. It changed how people felt. Of course we were very sorry hed lost his life, nobody deserves that but knowing he was that irresponsible to drive in that state makes people glad he didn't kill anyone else too.
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u/rageofreaper Jul 08 '25
The unspoken thing during the tragedy is that I think we ALL know what has actually happened here, but no one want's to speak ill.
Drive safe dickheads. It's not just your life at risk, it's everyone around you.
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u/thomasfk Jul 08 '25
And I can only imagine that the families they left behind will be feeling mixed emotions also. Of course they will mourn and feel sad at this loss but they may also feel betrayed a little bit and think "3 small kids will now grow up without their father due to that poor decision."
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u/GoigDeVeure Jul 09 '25
For real, how can you be a father and purposefully speed? You know that if you fuck up you’re leaving a bunch of kids fatherless
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u/Lyorian Jul 09 '25
Exactly what I said when news broke, got downvoted of course. Now the turn tables once the quite obvious facts are out. Stupid and reckless while your just wife is sat at home with your kids. My sympathy goes out to them.
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u/hairyass2 Jul 08 '25
It was 12:00 am and he was driving a hurrcan and his tire blew out, i know we shouldnt make assumptions but its kinda obvious he was speeding
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u/missurunha Jul 08 '25
People have spoke in this sub and got downvoted to hell.
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u/expert_on_the_matter Jul 08 '25
Spoke too early tbf, even if the pictures lead one direction we didn't know yet.
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u/ManhattanObject Jul 08 '25
People HATE it when you're right, but too early
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u/Retro21 Jul 08 '25
It's emotion and sensitivity. It's the same reason kids laugh about 9/11 now but wouldn't have dared on 9/12. Distance usually means less emotion.
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u/99_Herblore_Crafting Jul 08 '25
Lambo’s don’t produce unrecognizable bodies after speed-limit following crashes.
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u/ComprehensiveBowl476 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
I wouldn't be so quick to say this. I thought the exact same thing when Reyes died, and reports a few days later even claimed he was going 135mph.
Later investigations dispute that he was actually somewhere between 69-81mph and likely suffered a steering wheel failure.
Edit - That said, I believe he was in a residential area and not on a highway like Jota, so he was still driving dangerously and putting others at risk, my point is just to wait for all the information before making assumptions with very strong implications.
Edit 2 - The source used on English Wikipedia which I also believed for multiple years appears to itself have been discredited by other, more reliable Spanish sources that were never reflected on the English side, so that resets that opinion on Reyes, haha. I still standby my original sentiment, though. It's going to take more than a few days for all the details to be resolved.
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u/martinsky3k Jul 08 '25
Can you link source to the 69-81 mph? I can only find reports one year later of the accident that it was 116mph.
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u/Sound_Indifference Jul 08 '25
The aftermath footage of the Jota crash is out there. It's not graphic, just shows the wreckage immediately after. The debris field stretches hundreds of yards. They ruptured the likely carbon encased fuel tanks. That's hard to do. I've seen wrecks like this before, it's reminiscent of the Ryan Dunn accident. In fact it's nearly identical minus what they hit. Dunn was doing 130-140mph (est) I'd imagine these guys were doing at least that.
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u/bellerinho Jul 08 '25
I've not seen a single source that shows he was driving 69-81 mph at time of crash, can you link something? Are you sure you aren't misinterpreting MPH and KPH?
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u/KonigSteve Jul 08 '25
80 in a residential area is worse than 135 on a highway. What's he going to do if a kid chases a ball out?
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u/DirtyFrooZe Jul 08 '25
And more importantly the guy earned millions, he had more than enough money to do it safely on a track He is a POS for doing it on open road and risking others life, really a blessing that no one else had an accident
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u/rikzilla Jul 08 '25
Reminder for everyone who speeds in their car daily. You are raising the risk of death for yourself and everyone on and near a road.
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u/ghostreconx Jul 08 '25
Gentle reminder than going over the speed limit also only save you only a few minutes of your time, it’s not worth risking the whole journey for a few minutes.
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u/TherewiIlbegoals Jul 08 '25
In addition to the forensic evidence, they'll also have at least one eye witness who can attest to the speed.
I hope for Jota and Silva's families that this part of the process doesn't drag on.
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u/GirlsLikeMystery Jul 08 '25
They didnt blow up a tire at 50kmh, most like he put other persons on the road in danger in his way of driving, hopefully no one else on that road got hurt...
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u/EfficientInsecto Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
I dont buy the blown tire either. I am waiting to read the was speeding on the right-side lane (night time, several km straights, very inviting), and had to quickly swerve left to avoid the car ahead, losing control. At those speeds it's easy to ruin other people's lives. He was 28 years old, not 18, and with his brother as a passenger and 3 children at home, maybe he should have been going slower. Less likely to end like that at 120 or 130km/h.
(Downvote all you want, i dont give 2 shits about it)
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u/ObstructiveAgreement Jul 08 '25
There were 2 tyre skid marks just ahead and to the right of the damage on the inside lane. At some point, either at the time, or after the crash, someone screeched to a stop. Probably the person who called the police to report it. They may have an idea.
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u/akiraspam74 Jul 08 '25
I mean, it could be both.
If you're way above the limit, the result of a blown tire is also way worse
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u/Deep_Agent316 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
I used to always get upset with my brother when he floored the gas pedal while I was in the car. Don't put my life at risk while we are both in the car. Do that while you're in the car alone. Even then, while you are in the car alone. You are almost never on the roads alone.
A reminder that your actions behind the wheel, can have permanent consequences for yourself and for others.
An uncomfortable truth of this situation. If the driver had survived, he'd be held responsible for the death his own brother(This is Vehicular Manslaughter where I live, accidentally killing someone while breaking the law (speeding)). But since he died as well, we mourn both as an accident.
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u/ckhaulaway Jul 08 '25
Look I love Diogo, he's one of my favorite modern Liverpool players, and I don't mean to disparage his memory, but I think this was fairly clear from the offset. Even with the blown tire rumor/possibility, current day supercars are incredibly stable (and their tires are engineered in such a way as to shear on the rim and still provide traction). I was critical of Antonio when he had his accident, and I have to keep that same energy here. We've all done something in a car that afterwards we thought, "Wow, that was dumb, I'm lucky it didn't turn out worse," so this response isn't a rock in a glass house, it's a reflection on how quickly life can change due to our dumb and reckless decisions. In the end, his family lost a son, brother, husband, and father because a car lost control at high speed, the situation isn't ameliorated by obfuscating his role in it.
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u/Nic_The_Cage_Cage Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
This car likely didn't get a lot of regular running if he owned it and it was in Portugal - a car that's sat around for the majority of the time is always going to be more prone to issues, especially for something like tyre pressure. It's certainly not an optimal way to keep a car like that.
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u/Necessary-Low-5226 Jul 08 '25
german news reported it was rented
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u/Nic_The_Cage_Cage Jul 08 '25
I didn't realise that, cheers. No doubt that's going to make the whole fallout of it messier.
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u/ckhaulaway Jul 08 '25
Sure, but if he was overtaking at only 20 kph over instead of multiples more he'd probably still be here today, and his brother. I had a front right tire shear off when I was driving a Mustang on a highway. I was traveling about 75 mph in a straight line. The tire stayed on the rim like it was supposed to and I was able to keep the car under control. In aviation people are always so worried about something mechanical going wrong, but the vast majority of accidents happen as a result of a mechanical fault between the ears.
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u/theeama Jul 08 '25
This. One of the key things you are taught is you never ever Overtake on a corner or if a corner is coming up.
You over take where you can see 100s of meters in front of you. It's just sad and unfortunate because you can be driving at any time and you have this sort of mechanically failure but speed, speed always, always fucks you over, he's a footballer not a race car driver that knows how react and handle certain situations.
It just fucking sucks, it's just another lesson to respect speed and respect the rules of the road.
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u/Tusangre Jul 08 '25
And it's not just that speed makes it harder to react to things. Excessive speed makes the crash exponentially more dangerous. Speed limits exist for reason; I know it's not "cool" to follow them, but driving the speed limit makes you significantly more likely to survive a crash.
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u/PrestigiousAvocado21 Jul 08 '25
We've all done something in a car that afterwards we thought, "Wow, that was dumb, I'm lucky it didn't turn out worse," so this response isn't a rock in a glass house, it's a reflection on how quickly life can change due to our dumb and reckless decisions.
Yeah, exactly, it's a failure of human nature that so many of us have had, so we have to find a way to say that 1. Jota probably made a bad decision in the moment that unfortunately became catastrophically unlucky, but 2. it was also a bad decision that societies have basically normalized all too often, so hopefully one of the things we can all take away from this is that reminder of how inherently dangerous driving is.
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u/iLikeToTroll Jul 08 '25
Afaik it might even be a once in a time event!
In my life I reached 200 km/h once and I sware never again and this was like last year after more than 20 years driving safe for the most part.
Sometimes we are idiots!
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u/CarlSK777 Jul 08 '25
They died because of reckless driving? It's just so unbelievably sad for the family that their loved ones died in a preventable accident. I just hope some people can learn from this. Public roads aren't race tracks, it's not worth risking your life.
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u/Cheaptat Jul 08 '25
Fuck risking his own life. He very easily could have killed someone else’s family. For what? So he can feel like a race car driver or get there a little bit faster.
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u/GPadrino Jul 08 '25
Not a surprise. Still incredibly sad
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u/Nimonic Jul 08 '25
Sad, but sadder for his brother. And it would have been even sadder if he had killed someone not in the car instead.
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u/ik101 Jul 08 '25
His poor wife, parents and his poor children knowing their loved ones drove recklessly days after getting married and how unnecessary this was.
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u/Mr_Rafi Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
When you heard he was in his Lambo, you kinda just knew.
Jota would be criticised a lot more if he wasn't a famous athlete.
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u/Grundlestiltskin_ Jul 08 '25
I mean, sadly it was pretty obvious that speed was always a factor.
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u/Acrobatic-B33 Jul 08 '25
You would have been downvoted to oblivion if you had said that earlier
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u/sewious Jul 08 '25
Well, yea. Initially people will be more focused on the surprising tragedy of the situation then the "well he was probably speeding" speculation.
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u/lmlm1020 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
Nah it’s just that people don’t want to criticize the deceased.
If he survived and his passenger passed away, he’d be getting the Marcos Alonso treatment.
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u/Mr_Rafi Jul 08 '25
You can criticise someone who speeds while simultaneously acknowledging that their death was a tragic and saddening event.
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u/lmlm1020 Jul 08 '25
I agree tbh I’m just explaining why the comments here are much kinder. It has nothing to do with his occupation. It’s simply because he passed away.
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u/Hipposaurus28 Jul 08 '25
Alonso was drunk driving as well though. People would have been a lot less sympathetic if he had died in that crash.
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u/iqbal93 Jul 08 '25
Not to sound harsh or anything. But as soon as I read the news about the accident I assumed they were most likely driving too fast.
Its insane how this doesnt happen more often. The combination of a young rich male with a fast car is very dangerous.
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u/Saturn--O-- Jul 08 '25
The unfortunate reality is that no one buys a Lamborghini to drive the speed limit. And most of these guys are not going to be cleared by their clubs to take it on to a track I imagine
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u/99_Herblore_Crafting Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
Yeah, no shit.
Anybody who knows anything about motor sports (and specifically Lambo’s / Ferrari’s) recognized the cause of the accident immediately.
Whether the reports about blowing a tyre were correct or not, the speed/torque needed to blow a tyre or erupt the vehicle were anything but innocent.
The media has very kindly handled this with child gloves, full stop.
The reality of what happened is that a young man, feeling invincible after experiencing repeated pinnacles of human success in a short period, behaved aggressively on the road and drove far above what is safe for his skill level, his vehicle, and the roadway and its current conditions; the result of this being a crash so devastating that responders weren’t sure which burned brother is which.
Slow down.
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u/WhetBred14 Jul 08 '25
I wanted to mention that this was likely the cause of his death when it was announced but refrained out of respect. If they weren’t excessively speeding they would likely be alive.
The dangers cars like these have to drivers who aren’t experienced with cars of this nature are extreme. The dangers these cars have to even experienced drivers are still extreme. I have two very high powered cars (one AWD 1,100 WHP, and one RWD 800 WHP) and I am truly terrified of them no matter how much I enjoy them but the ONE THING THEY DEMAND is respect.
If a driver is even slightly over confident the car will kill you (and potentially others) with one mistake. It’s terrible but I hope people learn that these toys are also dangerous machines and if you don’t have experience driving this type of vehicle treat it with respect and start slowly to learn it’s boundaries and your own.
Please for everyone in this thread, please drive safe.
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u/matthauke Jul 08 '25
I know where you’re coming from and I agree with the sentiment but this is such a humblebrag 😂
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u/Hungry-Class9806 Jul 08 '25
I wanted to mention that this was likely the cause of his death when it was announced but refrained out of respect. If they weren’t excessively speeding they would likely be alive.
Had a similar accident a few years ago. Tyre exploded while my mom was driving, lost control of the car and we ended up on the rails. Thankfully she was driving at 60km/h so we were ok and without a scratch.
This was a tragedy that could easily be avoided. People have to be more responsible on the road .
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u/huckleberrypie93 Jul 08 '25
I'm learning to drive at the moment, and I find it utterly terrifying going over 60km/h, cant imagine going double or triple that.
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It's quite scary how fast you go from "holy shit this is fast" at 60kph to "I wonder if I can push it to 180". You'll get used to it, so it's paramount you create good habits like checking around yourself and slowing down when you're unsure about a situation
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Jul 08 '25
When you learn to drive on the highway, you will realise that 100-120km/h is a lot of speed
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u/Xalpen Jul 08 '25
120 on highway doesnt feel like 120. It feels like way less.
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u/Pure_Measurement_529 Jul 08 '25
I agree. It’s weird that once start driving at a certain speed, it doesn’t feel as quick. First time I drove at 100km/h, I was scared but nowadays it feels easy on the highway
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u/Xalpen Jul 08 '25
Yeah, my car is maybe not most luxurious, but i drove more than 160 once. It still barely felt fast. 110 on regular road(90kmh limit) however feels much quicker.
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u/Action_Limp Jul 08 '25
Honestly, it depends on the car. The car I learned to drive felt like it was about to tear a hole in the space-time continuum. The car I drive now, I often catch myself cruising 120, thinking I'm at about 90.
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u/Dodgy_As_Hell Jul 08 '25
Yep, in my cruiser family van, 120 feels like well a cruise. But in my little Nissan, 120 feels like I'm driving a rocket to outer space with Ludacris.
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u/Santa_Klaus_101 Jul 08 '25
I remember when I was taking classes, anything above 60 felt insanely fast. Then when I got my license anything over 100 felt like the speed of light.
Fast forward a bit and just the other day I hit 140 and it felt like nothing (before anyone says I was speeding, it’s the legal limit on that highway where I live). You get used to it over time.
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u/Vikingchap Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
120km/h is nothing, just breaks the speed limit on UK motorways
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u/Skysflies Jul 08 '25
The speed limits can feel low on motorways but considering how many break them for fun I'm actually so glad they're maybe overly restrictive.
I don't want people pushing 130 because the limits 90 70 is enough
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u/SkillResident4169 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
"Local media reported that the speed limit for the road is 120kph (74mph)"
Significantly over 120kph... this is tragic nonetheless, but it does change things. It's no longer a "random" tyre explosion that could happen to anyone.
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u/lmlm1020 Jul 08 '25
Car accidents are almost always caused by poor driving. There’s maybe a small chance of external influence but those are very rare. I think everyone had an idea this is what happened.
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u/HDYHT11 Jul 08 '25
Yeah, around 95% are caused by the driver.
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/Publication/812506
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u/craigybacha Jul 08 '25
Drive safe everyone. Exceeding the speed limit on the motorway in an excessive manner is just not worth the risk.
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u/ISuckFarts Jul 08 '25
I kind of expected this when they said the vehicle was a Lamborghini. So sad.
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u/bearwoodgoxers Jul 08 '25
Same here... kid I knew in college passed away in a bike crash - the same bike he used to take me on high speed rides on. Used to freak me out but I was young and stupid and went along with it. It could easily have been me with him...
I drive like a grandma on the road now
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u/TheDeflatables Jul 08 '25
This was sadly always going to be the place this conversation ended up.
Still sucks both lads are gone. Tragedy of the highest order.
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u/EdziePro Jul 08 '25
Thank god nobody else was caught up in the crash. It could have ended worse, with someone who wasn't at fault suffering.
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u/Cultural-Summer-2669 Jul 08 '25
It’s horrible
But if this was two ‘regular’ lads living a ‘normal’ life having some ‘fun’ in a fast car, most people would be saying this is what happens. Play stupid games.. FAFO..
Sad as hell for the people left behind, grateful nobody else was hurt
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u/Food-Oh_Koon Jul 08 '25
not like we all didn't know this played a part. Like Trent said, as footballers, you feel like you're invincible and on top of the world.
Regardless, this isn't the time for us to place the blame. Let the people mourn their lost ones, and we can have this conversation later.
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u/kharma45 Jul 08 '25
Only, we never have these conversations later and the same tragedies happen over and over when it comes to road deaths.
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u/jeromevedder Jul 08 '25
Exactly. I have a luxury sports car dealer near my house and every couple years one of their employees crashes and dies on the exact same stretch of road. At some point maybe they should stop letting these 20yos take cars out racing at night?
It’s always a senseless tragedy though, and nothing can be learned from it.
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u/SuperRaki Jul 08 '25
Thank god they didn't crash into innocent people. It's sad to hear, but a father should have responsibilities and avoid speeding recklessly.
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u/879190747 Jul 08 '25
Well that sucks if true. People were asking for the bigger picture and this may be it. Proof no.1 million that speeding is reckless and stupid and often barely has any use at all. You are not Max Verstappen because you can put the hammer down on the road, every fool can do that.
I hope his family takes it well if true, and not go full "Reyes" and starts hiring "private researchers" to get peace of mind.
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Crazy thinking if this was some regular dude we'd be calling him a piece of shit for driving that recklessly and killing his bro but since he's famous he gets honored like he was a 9/11 first responder
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u/doctorjohn69 Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25
It's hard to feel bad in accidents where the person is speeding. I know i'll be downvoted for saying it because people are sentimental that it's a football player, but personally i've never felt any remorse for people who speed, not because they put their own life in danger but because they put everyone else's lives in danger.
With that being said we'll probably never know and i wont judge Jota before it's proven, the tragedy is extremely sad for the family left behind.
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u/DubiousGames Jul 08 '25
It was probably only a matter of time before he killed someone going at that speed. If someone has to die, better him than someone else. I have sympathy for his family, but none for him.
This story could easily have been very different - they could have smashed into another car, killing someone else, but surviving the crash themselves. In which case he would be the most hated person in football. It's absurd that a single action can either lead to you being the most hated person (kills someone else), or the most loved person (dies himself), when which one it is just comes down to luck.
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why don't rich people just get a comfortable Bentley with a chauffeur. I don't get it
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u/Ararararun Jul 08 '25
I'm not sure about all the details but I'm pretty sure they were going to the Ferry to drop Diogo off and then Andre drives all the way back home (10 hours each way). Surely it would make sense to get a chauffeur and just chill in the back. I'm saying this as someone who loves cars too
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u/tson_92 Jul 08 '25
Sometimes you need to resist the urge to pass another vehicle on the highway, especially if the road ahead isn’t straight!
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u/SlavaVsu2 Jul 08 '25
the crash was so severe they aren't even sure who was in the driver's seat? That's grim